Re:Series 1 Episode 1
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Brilliant to see Series 1,Episode 1 for the first time again in 17 years for me, Its really been a blast from the past, and I enjoyed it a lot.
Loved seeing the orginal opening credits again including the brief view of the prisoner behind the cell, This was cut out on later series.
Took a while to get going, but it was good when it started, never realised the dungeoner put on their own helmet.
First Team took forever to work out the easy opening puzzle, and even when they realised it spelt OPEN, they still seemed to take forever.
Wall Monster looked pathetic compared to later series, It made me laugh really, and it was rather odd.
I dont think the team died in Lillith's room, I didnt see them come off the edge, but yes they seemed to walk through the rock to get through the serpants mouth, lol
The Death - Are we sure he was meant to go left as I thought the wall monster gave a hint to go right at that moment(Maybe I got confused by something else he said)obviously the right thing to do was remember the charm though and take the candle, and I think they would have learned this information if they got all 3 questions right, Still we will never know for sure though.
I will admit to laughing though when the team told him to hold up the charm thing in the hope somthing would happen even though Treguard told them when they entered the room their quest was pretty much over
So Team 2 start, Again they take forever working out the opening puzzle, and lifeforce is already down to amber, still they will be in the clue room soon to get health so no real bother.
Awesome Episode, Cant Wait for episode 2 tomorrow
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If that was the first time I ever saw knightmare in 1987, I would definitely want to see the next episode. For a starting episode, it was a little slow to start but I expected this.
For me it seems level 1 is an equivalent of a later series level 3. The tension and pressure is already high when they start! Treguard seems quite harsh in comparison to other series but i suppose thats so we know where he stands as dungeonmaster. Also, the riddles for level one are pretty hard, and having to get all three right seems a little extreme.
Thought the first team were good actually, despite their hanging around in the first chamber. They took the challenge seriously and acted more and more quickly as the quest went on. For me they were bound to die early on, as the show is in its nasty first stages. Great death music by the way.
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not bad.
nice death,
nice into
Bad Wall monster,
And Lilith was always one of the better ones..
um.. i noticed a lot of character names in the credits.. one of which doesn't appear in this season.
and Treguard seems more willing to allow the team to die then to help..mind you the amount of clues he had to give to the 1st teams 1st room.
1st seasons eps are always alittle slow, so the pilot is going to be slower, also takes a bit of getting used to,
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So, Monday 7th September 1987 brung this, the very first episode of Knightmare- one year before I was born!
"Justice lies on the right" was what Olgarth said, yet the correct Talisman was placed in front of the left door. That goes to show how hard the early series were, especially this one, as answering one riddle wrong in Level 1 lead to death. When I first heard the end credits I thought it was Treguard laughing, but it would have been a pretty bizarre laugh coming from him! And yes, that Anglia production logo at the end hasn't been seen on TV since 1987- when repeated on the Sci-Fi channel in 1995 and 1998, the logo was replaced with the current triangular one.
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While this topic's still recent, here are a couple of media links:
http://tomsonic.dyndns.org:90/temp/km/deathmusic.mp3 Death music from S1E1 - sorry about the low quality, I used a mono VCR
http://tomsonic.dyndns.org:90/temp/km/death.avi DivX full-screen skull death sequence. Would have been more complete, except Challenge faded in the static KM logo over the last rolling eyeball.
Old Anglia production logo. I wonder why they didn't use Sci-Fi's tapes? -
Every time I watch the early seasons, I'm always struck by how different Treguard really was. He was a lot slimmer, his hair and beard were much darker, and he was so EEEEEVIL!!! He was either disinterested or really enjoyes seeing dungeoneers getting squished, Never mind the dull grandaddy figure he became in later years, THIS IS how he was meant to be!
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Huh dull granddaddy figure? I think that he looked batter in the latter series' particularly in s7 and 8. Grandaddy figure >:(! I shall never defend you when others say bad things about that scatterbrained dizzy individual that came from that bottle ever again .
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He really was apathetic, almost like an Angus Deayton type of character, without the smarminess (sic?).
"Still, why should you care?" Say what, Treguard?
That's one inch away from "This programme is awful. Do not watch it."! (Which, of course, it ain't)The wall monster looked like something anyone can do with their hand tilted sideways and moving your thumb from side to side, creating a mouth.
Oh, and they DEFINITELY died exiting the Lillith room- saw it blatantly on the monitors. Still, it was the very first team, and they were losing anyway.
The whoosh I didn't like, and the death music would have scared the living daylights out of me if I were younger.
I'll have to see whether I like this 'new' ('old', surely...) nasty Treguard, like the transition from nice to nasty Harold Bishop in Neighbours. Look, Neighbours was the only thing that was on as a student in the daytime at Uni...
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Hi everyone, remember me?
Nah thought not - haven't been here for quite a while so I doubt you would. Anyway, the first time challange showed KM I missed the oppertunity to tape series 5-8 (got 3 and 4) - so now I'm delighted to have the chance to get them all this time.
This is the first time I've seen this episode since it was on sci-fi. Anyway, I'll probably stick around this time.
Sorry for the off-topic. Yes, I thought treguard was great, as usual. Although his attempt at explaining the rules of the game (for the first episode) was pretty confusing, had it been the first time I watched it I would've probably turned it off because I'd have a headache by the time the first team started. (I only started watching KM from series 6 when it was originally on ITV). Also suprised to see the old Anglia logo, because I heared it was replaced on sci-fi.
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Poor old Guy Standeven seemed to have breathing difficulties. Perhaps a larger air-hole in the Olgarth/Granitas face mask was needed.
The freshness of this episode is still apparent after all this time. More or less everything was in place from the start.
I really would love to know how the Life Force clock was made. I really do think that having one in the new series is essential - it is an extremely important tension-building device. OK, so the lack of linearity makes it a bit awkward but I never used to care or even think about it when I was watching it originally all those years ago. All I knew was that when the face appeared, it was time to hurry up!
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Thanks for those media links, Tom41. I fiddled about with the Anglia logo a bit and removed the Challenge logo at the top:
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload5/anglia87.jpg
Perhaps Illusion could replace the picture of the current image on the Series 1 pages with this, changing the description to:
'However, the original episodes broadcast on ITV in 1987 (and Challenge in 2004) showed this older Anglia production logo.
This indicates that the production logos were updated for the Sci-Fi broadcasts.'?
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Old Anglia production logo. I wonder why they didn't use Sci-Fi's tapes?
I'd hazard a guess that they preferred brand new copies of all series made direct from Anglia's masters, than use some other channel's older copies.
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A change to actually see something in Knightmare - very bright - s8 was all in the dark!
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Its quite different after finishing watching series 8, to go straight back to series 1.
Wall monster = naff
Effects were alright considering that it was 1987 (I think) when it was filmed.
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You could equally say that about going back to, say, season 5 after watching season 8, as the digitized photos looked very lifeless and pixelated compared to the later CGI.
Yes, Olgarth looked terrible in the opening episode, but you do get a much clearer view of the wall monsters in subsequent shows, even if they still look a bit spongy and wobbly.
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