Re:Series 1 Episode 1
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So, Monday 7th September 1987 brung this, the very first episode of Knightmare- one year before I was born!
"Justice lies on the right" was what Olgarth said, yet the correct Talisman was placed in front of the left door. That goes to show how hard the early series were, especially this one, as answering one riddle wrong in Level 1 lead to death. When I first heard the end credits I thought it was Treguard laughing, but it would have been a pretty bizarre laugh coming from him! And yes, that Anglia production logo at the end hasn't been seen on TV since 1987- when repeated on the Sci-Fi channel in 1995 and 1998, the logo was replaced with the current triangular one.
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While this topic's still recent, here are a couple of media links:
http://tomsonic.dyndns.org:90/temp/km/deathmusic.mp3 Death music from S1E1 - sorry about the low quality, I used a mono VCR
http://tomsonic.dyndns.org:90/temp/km/death.avi DivX full-screen skull death sequence. Would have been more complete, except Challenge faded in the static KM logo over the last rolling eyeball.
Old Anglia production logo. I wonder why they didn't use Sci-Fi's tapes? -
Every time I watch the early seasons, I'm always struck by how different Treguard really was. He was a lot slimmer, his hair and beard were much darker, and he was so EEEEEVIL!!! He was either disinterested or really enjoyes seeing dungeoneers getting squished, Never mind the dull grandaddy figure he became in later years, THIS IS how he was meant to be!
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Huh dull granddaddy figure? I think that he looked batter in the latter series' particularly in s7 and 8. Grandaddy figure >:(! I shall never defend you when others say bad things about that scatterbrained dizzy individual that came from that bottle ever again .
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He really was apathetic, almost like an Angus Deayton type of character, without the smarminess (sic?).
"Still, why should you care?" Say what, Treguard?
That's one inch away from "This programme is awful. Do not watch it."! (Which, of course, it ain't)The wall monster looked like something anyone can do with their hand tilted sideways and moving your thumb from side to side, creating a mouth.
Oh, and they DEFINITELY died exiting the Lillith room- saw it blatantly on the monitors. Still, it was the very first team, and they were losing anyway.
The whoosh I didn't like, and the death music would have scared the living daylights out of me if I were younger.
I'll have to see whether I like this 'new' ('old', surely...) nasty Treguard, like the transition from nice to nasty Harold Bishop in Neighbours. Look, Neighbours was the only thing that was on as a student in the daytime at Uni...
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Hi everyone, remember me?
Nah thought not - haven't been here for quite a while so I doubt you would. Anyway, the first time challange showed KM I missed the oppertunity to tape series 5-8 (got 3 and 4) - so now I'm delighted to have the chance to get them all this time.
This is the first time I've seen this episode since it was on sci-fi. Anyway, I'll probably stick around this time.
Sorry for the off-topic. Yes, I thought treguard was great, as usual. Although his attempt at explaining the rules of the game (for the first episode) was pretty confusing, had it been the first time I watched it I would've probably turned it off because I'd have a headache by the time the first team started. (I only started watching KM from series 6 when it was originally on ITV). Also suprised to see the old Anglia logo, because I heared it was replaced on sci-fi.
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Poor old Guy Standeven seemed to have breathing difficulties. Perhaps a larger air-hole in the Olgarth/Granitas face mask was needed.
The freshness of this episode is still apparent after all this time. More or less everything was in place from the start.
I really would love to know how the Life Force clock was made. I really do think that having one in the new series is essential - it is an extremely important tension-building device. OK, so the lack of linearity makes it a bit awkward but I never used to care or even think about it when I was watching it originally all those years ago. All I knew was that when the face appeared, it was time to hurry up!
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Thanks for those media links, Tom41. I fiddled about with the Anglia logo a bit and removed the Challenge logo at the top:
http://upl.silentwhisper.net/uplfolders/upload5/anglia87.jpg
Perhaps Illusion could replace the picture of the current image on the Series 1 pages with this, changing the description to:
'However, the original episodes broadcast on ITV in 1987 (and Challenge in 2004) showed this older Anglia production logo.
This indicates that the production logos were updated for the Sci-Fi broadcasts.'?
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Old Anglia production logo. I wonder why they didn't use Sci-Fi's tapes?
I'd hazard a guess that they preferred brand new copies of all series made direct from Anglia's masters, than use some other channel's older copies.
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A change to actually see something in Knightmare - very bright - s8 was all in the dark!
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Its quite different after finishing watching series 8, to go straight back to series 1.
Wall monster = naff
Effects were alright considering that it was 1987 (I think) when it was filmed.
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You could equally say that about going back to, say, season 5 after watching season 8, as the digitized photos looked very lifeless and pixelated compared to the later CGI.
Yes, Olgarth looked terrible in the opening episode, but you do get a much clearer view of the wall monsters in subsequent shows, even if they still look a bit spongy and wobbly.
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Very cool to see the first ever ep for the first time! It's very different to the KM we're used to, but it's good to see where it all began. I thought it was interesting that the quest objects must have come in later, and all they were after in the quest was a squire-dom. Plus, the ante-chamber was way too bright for my liking! That definitely improved later on...Treguard looked so young, and I loved the 80s hair, hehe The asthmatic wall monster, ahem well, it was only the first episode, so I did think it was quite a hard quest generally, that left/right thing could have been confusing, and there was nothing to tell then they had to take the lamp not the charm, whereas in later episodes, there would have probably been a scroll with a hint. Still, great to see it, looking forward to seeing the rest
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