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Series 1 - Episode 8

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    Purgatory
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    I think this was the ep,

    there was a moment in one of the rooms where a voice said, opining locked door becomes boring, or something like that.... now it didn't sound like Casper.. he seemed quite happy to open it, the other door was a fire exit.

    unless it was Mogdred trying to fool the team in taking the fire exit door???

    Anyone notice the steam/smoke coming out of the well?

    i guess thats what the bell was used for,

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      Can't someone ask Tim Child about what would have happened. Surely he would know. How can someone ask him?

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        I think he was asked what a winning team in series 1 and 3 would have looked like. It's all available from the www.knightmare.com front page in the interview done by Kieran.

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          Yup he was asked during that interview, surprised he has a good memory of that far back for rooms that were never used.

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            HarveyTowers
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            This was the best ep in the series!

            Maybe they should have used the opposite spell on the door - the word would have turned round and lead them to Merlin...

            Just a thought!

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              Rainecloud
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              Weird. I never realised that the team didn't use their spell.

              Heh. Hooray for in-depth episode discussion.

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                HStorm
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                They also didn't use the spell they got on Level 2.

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                  keke
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                  why can't i find that interview on www.knightmare.com hmmmmmm

                  P.S. Majida rules

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                    Illusion
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                    Try http://www.knightmare.com/fanstuff/interviews/timchild.htm

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                      keke
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                      Thank you!

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                        My suspicion is that several rooms in level 2 were left out of the final edit to fit the quest inside the season time limit.

                        This is a plausible theory because when watching Team 4, they did encounted quite a few rooms in Level 2, and there was probably more to come if they had got past the room with Folley and his riddle. However for this last team after Cedric, there was only The Spear Room,The Clue Room,The Key room for Casper,The Merlin Room, and The Level 3 Well so only 5 rooms which seems oddly short for Level 2, So YES if there was rooms cut out of the quest, there was obviously one where the team used the Bell, and one where they used the Shield Spell too????

                        If these edits were made, then I have one word(WHY) Maybe the production team thought there was a risk the team might not quite reach level 3, and maybe they thought it would be good for the viewers to at least see what level 3 would have looked like in Series 1 even if the team didnt complete their quest????

                        I'm more inclined to argue that there was too much material for the time slot and that some of it had to go. I mean it's only a 25min programme, it's not going to cover everything.

                        And of course it will not be limited to this particular quest/episode either. You might have 16 episodes to play with in the series but you can't show everything that went on as it'd be considerably boring for one thing, watching tedious whisperings with sod all else going on plus you'd only see about 2 teams a series.

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                          keeds
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                          Clearly alot of editing took place, lso the Merlin/Nilrem door may have taken the team to Mogdred, as on the Series 1 credits Merlin and Mogdred are listed, yet Mogdred is never seen in the aired version of series 1

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                            Hmm, indeed. We know that rooms and scenes were filmed 'posthumously' and inserted into quests. It most likely works the other way around, too - scenes and rooms that have been cut out. That'd be a fascinating reel to watch.

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                              NeilJones
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                              Hmm, indeed. We know that rooms and scenes were filmed 'posthumously' and inserted into quests. It most likely works the other way around, too - scenes and rooms that have been cut out. That'd be a fascinating reel to watch.

                              Assuming said reels haven't been destroyed by now, in light of the fact it'd have no use anywhere at all and that the idea of "Extras" on DVDs and stuff was still 15 years off.

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                                You knever know, really. If a full studio recording of a 1971 Doctor Who story exists, then the possibility of some unseen Knightmare footage can't be ruled out totally. Nothing that couldn't be solved through an archive search!

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                                  Malefact
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                                  A lot of censors' cuts from long-lost Doctor Who stories exist, made way back in the 60s. Bearing that in mind, perhaps it's not so unreasonable to consider that Km cuts exist as well. (And if they find the missing episode of The Tenth Planet, it's a dead cert! )

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                                    Kieran
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                                    It is hard to tell whether KM producers kept the outtakes, though it is certainly fair from impossible.

                                    Outtakes from Doctor Who still exist, hours worth from 80s stories (again when DVD extras had not even been thought of) and even minor studio work from late 60s stories.

                                    However, in some cases they simply choose not to keep outtakes out of respect to the actors involved, Peter Rogers of the Carry On legacy upholds this, minus outtakes from Columbus (I hope).

                                    Only way we'll know is by asking the man himself.

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                                      TomDread
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                                      Episode 8 was def. the best ep. of series 1 but does give you a suspicion if editing went on

                                      That SHIELD spell... my theory is that the team actually encountered MOGDRED (where i got my name) in LEVEL 2 bcoz Merlin said that Mogdred lies ahead i.e Level 2 and below. However was cut-out maybe bcoz Mogdred might've gloated for soooooooooooooooooooo looooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggg!!!

                                      Also his name is in the credits. He might've tried to kill the team but would have used the spell against him... aah... i can just imagine it now... Mogdred would have said something like

                                      "Richard ignore your quest- Mogdred's path lies below. (NILREM) Spurn it and you will face creatures beyond fear Mwhahahahahahahhahahahaah"

                                      Er... how does that sound to evry1 here?

                                      One last thing; Harvey Towers, the team could not use the OPPOSITE spell against the door bcoz they had not gained it yet. It wernt till they met the Gargoyle they earned it. Maybe if the team took the horn there might've been poison on the other side of the wall in Jericho 6 then maybe cast the spell to make it harmless and would use it to heal life force that's what i think anyway...

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                                        TomDread
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                                        Any ideas about this?

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                                          37Herbie
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                                          Not sure what the opposite spell would have been used for. Looked like a large pit behind the wall so maybe after the wall is blasted down with the horn the opposite spell could be used to turn the pit into a path or bridge?

                                          Good episode for Series 1. Shame Mogdred did not get to be seen.

                                          Outtakes and unedited quests would be quality. Maybe they could re-edit the series for DVD so that rather than individual episodes they do it so you have them as individual quests (so the lonegr quests are just straight through rather then tempral distorted - with outtakes could ahve some uber long quests!)

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