Series 5 Episode 6
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erm if the ruby weas the key to my dingeon(being lord fear's) then they wouldnt have needed the other key. maybe elita wanted the necklace not the ruby. she did ask for anything else other than the ruby. also if they'd given her the necklace maybe elita would have positioned them better in the corridor of blades or told them to throw themselves from wall to wall instead of running off into the distance. Maybe..
oh well
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Well it's about time! Endless delays and dithering do not make for entertainment. Getting your legs chopped off does. After the causeway there was some I can't remember but it envolves Skarkill and Pixel the Welsh pixie, the gatemaster, and the Descender. (Love that descender!) Met Elita trying to summon Satan. At least I presume that's what she was doing. Took a ridiculously long time to decide to fork over the goods before Elita ran. Chopped in the CoB. Reckon it was her own fault as she seemed to just be meandering straight into the blades. New team get a spyglass and meet Motley before time out.
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I remember back in the day that I hated this team, well not hated, that's a bit strong, but for some reason I was never overly keen on them and so when Elita stomped off with the jewel and left them, I was over the moon! I think they probably could have survived the CofB with better navigation, but that they weren't supposed to, rather like the last team in S4 with the sped-up puzzles they faced in level 3!
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I think she'd have probably given them some magic for a later encounter. Did the team have a GHOST spell too? Funny they didn't cast it. Mind you, they didn't have time for anything. That was just mean putting that food in the middle of the corridor, threw them completely when the blades came so quickly!
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It was one of the more "deserved" ends I think
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It's so frustrating when a team throws away their chance of winning like this! It was obvious they were supposed to get help from someone (Level 3 might have got easier over the years, but it was never a walkover) and the only person around to help them was Elita. Of course, in theory any advisers who can keep their cool should be able to guide a dungeoneer through the COB without magic, but I suppose some other nasty would have been set up for them at the other end even if they had survived. By slipping up they gave themselves automatic fail conditions.
So basically - don't vacillate and get Elita to help. Pretty simple, really...
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Thank God that team went anyway >:(, I couldn't stand to see the dithering, it must have been hell for the cast and crew on set. Why didn't they just give the stupid gem to Elita? She wanted it and wasn't a member of the opposition, so she could be trusted...
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I think the Corridor of Blades, with its sudden onslaught, was used to 'kill off' this team (as indeed it was during its only other Series 5 appearance). But it's quite possible that the CoB was coming next in any eventuality, and that had the team helped Elita promptly and received Level 3-related help from her, Treguard (and Pickle) would have rewarded this by giving specific CoB-related help (e.g. Pickle guiding the dungeoneer past the first few blades, as he did in Series 4; or Treguard advising the team to use magic quickly, leading to the dungeoneer becoming a 'GHOST'* and allowing the blades to pass harmlessly through her). Thus, by Treguard withholding such help, the supremely frustrating team was condemned to death.
Then again, going down to Level Three, only to go up a flight of stairs, seems a bit awry to me...
*GHOST: One of a group of Knightmare spells which are also names of films. Other examples are BIG and SPLASH.
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Yes, or maybe Elita would have given them a spyglass, and Lord Fear would be "overheard" telling someone about a spell to get past the corridor of blades.
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Possibly Treguard's worst-ever dungeon ditty in this episode, pronouncing "worse" as "wuss" in order to rhyme with "us" - urgh!
Interesting how Elita says "straight on down the path for the final conflict" - I wonder if this would have been with Lord Fear, considering Aesandre hadn't yet been introduced.
Treguard shows worrying signs of senility at temporal disruption, though it does crack me up how he seems to be off in a world of his own, chuckling away at Motley even though he hasn't said anything funny!
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Treguard shows worrying signs of senility at temporal disruption, though it does crack me up how he seems to be off in a world of his own, chuckling away at Motley even though he hasn't said anything funny!
Maybe Treguard was amused by Motley telling the dungeoneer "I'd sidestep to your left a bit if I were you", bringing back memories of Simon in the Block & Tackle! (I love the thought that even Treguard considers that line to be a hilarious classic.)
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Team 3 negotiated another causeway easily, but in the next room got hit by a haunted-skull for life-force damage while opening a chest. Found a "PIXEL" spell.
They were then cornered by the shifty skarkill but used their spell to send him packing.
(I thought the Pixel was ok as a one-off plot, but it's a bit samey after a few quests.)
Worked-out the descender and reached level 3.
Straight into a "clue-room" and they took forever to decide to take the ruby and the key. They also gained a "GHOST" spell.
In the next cavern they encountered Elita again, and she wanted a ruby.
Why did they take so long to offer her the ruby? Advisor Helen rightly pointed-out that they had dealt with Elita before and she was honest with them. Unfortunately the others took so long (two minutes!) to agree (plus Sarah was rather stroppy with Elita) that when she finally got the ruby she did a runner....
Next-up was the corridor of blades and Sarah reacted far too slowly to her directions and got sliced.
Treguard suggested that Elita could have helped them....
I assume Elita would have helped them by advising them to cast the "GHOST" spell before exiting the chamber and entering the corridor of blades, then they could have automatically passed thru it unscathed. (Like Martin, S3 T11, in the corridor of the catacomb.)
Team 4 were flown by the dragon straight to the level 1 clue-room.
Unusual that they were instructed to take the spyglass with them, so only got one other clue object. (silver) Had to leave Gwendoline's arrow behind, and we know how much trouble team 3 had when they did that.
Encountered Motley just before the bell sounded.
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The whole clue object choice thing is partly what I was waffling about when I said I could see why they were hesitant about offering the gem to Elita. I can think of a few reasons why they might not want to give it to her:
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Pickle has said some rather nasty things about her. It's at least plausible to think she might not be wholly trustworthy, although the evidence from their own Quest doesn't really support that, since she held to the bargain over getting them a ride on Smirkenorff.
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She's conducting some kind of ritual, thus I think they're not totally dense to ask what she wants to do with the ruby. If she's using it to summon evil spirits, create more disgusting and downright offensive clothing like her current attire, or something equally evil, then our "Truth and Justice" motto would perhaps make us question if we want to give her the means for the rite.
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Elita's unwilling to tell them much about what help she'll offer them in return for the ruby.
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"The key to my dungeon is the jewel in my crown." Note my dungeon, my crown. This is, I guess, Lord Fear's Dungeon, so it's at least plausible that the right thing to do is to keep the gem for the final encounter and not waste in on a smelly little cavern elf with no dress sense. It's also possible, of course, that the clue just meant "take the jewel because you'll need it", but I'm arguing not that it was needed later on, but that I can see why they had reservations about giving it to Elita.
GG does like trying to help excuse teams just a little, to balance out being rather bitchy about them. GG also seems to like making nice orderly lists. 1. 2. 3. Mmmmm, nice lists.
This is a very old post (only 20 years later haha) but I'd like to thank you for this as it offers some understanding to the team's actions that I hadn't thought about before. I always thought it was annoying that this team took so long deciding to give Elita the gem, but with the reasons you mentioned it does make it more understandable.
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