Series 2 - Episode 11
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There was no "well animation" this ep (hope you know what I mean) the dungeon was just seen stepping in and landing at the bottom.
I thought that it was the dungeoneer that repeated the spell, I could be wrong though.
I didn't think that this was a fair death, the dungeoneer didn't get a chance to retrieve the medal. If they hadn't used the free spell on Gretal - they could have made it through but their quest would have been incomplete.
New team - good to have a dungeoneer that knew the answers to the riddles.
Gretel: "You should be able to tell if I'm pretty from my voice"
. . . ask a leading question . . .
Was this the first "moving" scene behind the titles? (usually the animation is stopped before the credits roll)
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Great ad-lib from Audrey Jenkinson-
"Do you think I'm pretty?"
"I can't see you"
"Oh, but Julian, you should be able to tell from my voice that I'm terribly pretty, so DO YOU THINK I'M PRETTY!? (stamps foot)"
I noticed the sudden flash of the quiz programme just before the ad-break too- it was a bit of Quiz TV, which takes up part of TV Travel Shop's time during these hours.
Bizarre death- Treguard hinted that they shouldn't use the FREE spell on Gretel (yes, the 'Gift Spell: FREE' also appeared on the original broadcast), but they did it anyway. And they certainly didn't have enough time to grab the 3 medal pieces- could this have been the forced death due to a team member getting homesick?
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Mistake in this room too... As the dungeoneer approached the table, the satellite feed switched over to some other channel, where a phone-in game was taking place. Oddly, the Challenge logo remained! Soon switched back to Knightmare though. Anyone else saw this?
Well It sounds like it happened everywhere then as it happened to me too, looked like a technicly fault on the channel???Did this happen on Sky Digital As well, I watched it on NTL Digital, Just Curious????
Anyway back to the episode, What an very unfair death. No way did they have time to pick up all the Medal Pieces, as soon as got the first piece, The Automatum stormed in and was immedinatly next to the second piece of the Medal so it was impossible to get the other pieces. Why was this, I dont think they gave the team a fair chance here?????Did they want to kill them off?????
Anway saying this, they didnt techniclly need to use their free spell, as Treguard said You could save the spell for themselves, However maybe they thought Free The Lady and She would help them escape, However it can be risky sometimes and this proved it.
I did laugh at the Advisor spellcasting the Spell Twice, made me chuckle a little.
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I thought it sounded like a different person casting the spell the second time, and that maybe they were confused and trying to follow the "save it for yourselves" hint by trying to see whether it would work on the maid and then again on the dungeoneer.
The team seemed quite good until that death - maybe because they knew riddle answers that I didn't
Saw that strange channel flick thing on NTL (cable) digital.
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Ah well it's a good thing that I record the overnight version - well it better have recorded this time. I'll scream if I get another half hour of NTL error message. (I had the NTL box replaced yesterday)
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I got "There is a technical fault with this channel, Please try again later" - but maybe it was something to do with the heavy rain and wind outside
For all this technology, can nobody create something to make a Sky Digibox work while its raining?
[Recorded the 5:30 episode, I love Timer Record!]
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Sky digibox does work while raining... but isn't to sharp in a storm... mine also had that game show clip of a moments.. but the rain doesn't effect a sky digibox.. well it's never since I've had one.
Maybe the team died before.. but had to carry on due to the next team not being ready? plus i think they made a mistake so making them dies was the only answer..
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I do recall thinking how unfair this death was. They did the right thing and rescued Gretel and what thanks do they get? She scarpers without rewarding them! (This annoys me as much as the Mellisandre incident in series 4 where the team chose to go with her rather than Gundrada, they choose clue objects then in the next room, Mel demands the rope with nothing to give in exchange! If she needed the rope, why didn't she take it herself and let the dungeoneer pick an alternate item!) Anyway, I REALLY hate maids, and that includes Elf Maids too!
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The team death in series two where they didnt collect all of the medal for the MEDAL spell was kinda unfair! They couldnt collect the piece because the Automaton chased them and barely gave them chance! I have seen slower teams than them do ok but it was dismissed that they were too slow! I just thought that they would have collected the pieces otherwise!
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Well maybe, but there are a couple of things to consider.
Firstly, there's no doubt that they did dawdle a bit over collecting the first piece of the spell.
Secondly, although Treguard warned them to hurry out, they could have carried on trying to pick up the remaining pieces if they wanted. Ultimately, the choice is always with the team.
Thirdly, they were given an alternative spell later on, and they chose to use it to save Gretel instead; no one forced them to. I've always thought that if they'd got the dungeoneer to stand really close to Gretel before casting, they could have saved her and given him a chance to get through the exit. (Although they'd have had to be quicker than they were when trying to collect the MEDAL spell.)
One of the more noble deaths in the series history though.
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I've just written a rundown of the top five most and least deserving deaths for an upcoming issue of TES, and Jamie made it in there pretty high (for least deserved, naturally). If they had had the presence of mind to move Jamie to stand near the door before they cast FREE, they might have made it, but they were definitely not given enough time to collect the MEDAL spell - the first piece didn't even disappear for ages after Jamie had stood on it. This was a pretty weird situation altogether, really.
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the automatom was ace but that medal spell was unjuste oh well arie adnie got supper tho!!!!
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...they conjured up a well by throwing the Small Change purse into the cauldron!
It gave a whole new meaning to the phrase 'change in vat'.
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Sorry, registration closed after 'ecstatic pleasure'. You should have got here earlier. Your disbelieving rage has been redirected to our Series 8 Life Force Clock Department.
Correct me if, but dIdn't Mr Stahl say that he wasn't supposed to kill anyone as the Automatum and got in quite a panic when he hit someone on the helmet "by accident"?
It was a Mr. Edmund Dehn who played the Automatum. I don't think he's quoted as having said anything along those lines. For a Stahl-automaton connection, try Terminator 3.
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The answer to the first riddle was 'Hippogriff'...
Cedric was rather generous to accept this answer, considering it was wrong. Then again, they didn't get much of a reward for a supposedly perfect score - Cedric merely accompanied them into the next room, and I can't imagine his presence was vital to get past the toadodile in the corridor. Anyway, a score of 2 would probably have been enough to earn his services (assuming a score of 1 would simply allow them to take the food), so shouldn't they get something extra for 3? What happened to "I command you"?
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