Has anybody seen Raven?
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Welcome to the K-Zone... may your time here bring much die-hardness.
It clearly takes some inspiration from KM - especially given how similar Raven himself looks to Treguard - but I don't think it's just a cheap copy. The game rules and the scenario are substantially different, and there are far fewer effects in it than in KM, especially no chromakey technology.
I've got time for Raven as a series, it does take up the baton where KM left it and runs with it fairly well. I just wish the host's personality made him less of a Gandalf clone. There are far too many of them out there...
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Raven isn't a cheap version of Knightmare - it's clearly been given a much bigger budget in recent series. But it is similar to Knightmare in many respects, which is why it was such a pleasant surpirse to me to find that the BBC were making such a programme in these modern times of dumbed-down Children's TV.
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Hi there and welcome. Personally I consider the dungeoneers the die-hards, and us the watch-hards. As for Raven, I tend to regard it as the lovechild of Knightmare and The Crystal Maze. You might find this discussion of it interesting.
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I watched Raven and I have to say it wasnt too bad I can see what they have tried to do and for me it works
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Greetings Tregaurdpobski69
Yeah, Raven is a good show. Very similar to Knightmare in some respects.
Here's the link to a previous discussion about it...
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I never knew it had been going for so long there are some good and bad things on there.
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Raven is certainly a decent series, but it definitely falls into the stereotype bracket of sword-and-sorcery shows in several ways.
The host is a typical, mysterious mentor figure of the fantasy world, a la Gandalf/Obi Wan Kenobi. There's a lot of mystical babble unconvincingly dressed up as pearls of wisdom, and on the whole, the programme takes itself too seriously.
In that regard, the dark irony running through every season of Knightmare beats Raven it into a cocked hat.
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There is another show on CBBC that feature some of the other elements of Knightmare - computer graphics and close teamwork. I can't remember what its called but teams of brats make virtual creatures which compete against other teams' creatures. I don't like the look of it but I guess I'm not the target audience. Also the presenter is a freakishly bland bloke who pops up on other things occasionally, including patronising old footballers on cup final day
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I've never seen the appeal of Raven to Knightmare fans (that's not to say that I think Raven is a bad show, I find it mildly interesting). Sure the setting and the host have similarities, but from there it seems more like a cross between The Crystal Maze and an obstacle course to me. Sorry if this upsets anyone, but hey, it's just my own personal opinion.
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[If this can be put in the existing Raven thread as I'm not sure where exactly it is, thanks]
There's a actually another Raven dvd out there guys that shows the show and isn't just an interactive DVD. It's called 'The Warriors Collection' and while chances are slimmer than a wafer biscuit on a diet it does allow for one of those glimmers of hope that one day this milennium we just may get an offiical Knightmare dvd, or medium of the future, release....
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[If this can be put in the existing Raven thread as I'm not sure where exactly it is, thanks]
Did you at least spend a little time having a look for it? It was only on page 3 of General Discussion. You could have found it manually within a minute, and even more quickly by using the forum's Search function. Of course only Moderators can merge threads; and in addition to that, I think it's true to say that they don't mind tidying up after members - in fact, some of the Mods might even enjoy it, in a Mr.-Muscle-slogan-type way - but please do not expect it of them.
That said, thank you for the Raven DVD news. Personally, I doubt it will make an official Knightmare DVD release any less unlikely. It just makes the lack of one even more unjust.
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I still haven't seen Raven, actually.
I ought to have a look for it.
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