Series 5 Episode 1
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(merge with current thread if it exists)
Few changes in the beginning of the series and teams. As the episode opens, we see that the cartoon intro sequence has been playing on the advisers wall monitor. Also, the dungeoneers no longer appear 'at the door' - Treguard just says Enter Stranger to summon them in.
Pickle now takes the team's names and details on a parchment scroll
First appearance of Smirkenoff at the beginning, and we see a dragon-ride into Level 1! Smirkenoff didn't speak in this series.
Through a castle door and into the woods (?!) then into a clearing. Brother Mace and Sylvester Hands were playing some card game. Mace gave them some information - near the forest is the village of Wolfenden. They were told to find Julius Scaramonger, and give him a bag of gold which Mace owes him.
Through the portal and straight into Wolfenden. Julius Scaramonger was there, and tried to buy the eye-shield, helmet and knapsack off Katherine! She refused of course, and then made Scaramonger promise to give them some information or items before handing over the gold from Mace. They got a spy-glass from him, then went into the building.
Inside the building, got some food and Treguard explained how to use the spy-glass, by holding it up in front of the eye-shield. Lord Fear appears for the first time ever. Didn't gain much information, apart from that the goblin master is hunting the dungeoneer. Just managed to throw the spy-glass down before LF was able to destroy her!
The next eye-shield sequence was the only one not to have been 'solarized' by digital effect!
Arrived in a forest clearing, and Gwendolin the Greenwarden appeared! Answered a riddle, and gained a password "Saracen" from her - and even asked her how to spell it!
There was a blocker in the next area, which came forward and asked for the PASS-WORD! Gave it the password they just got "Saracen" which caused the blocker to go away. Through the door and into the Decender - a mechanical, spellbound lift! They said 'could you move please' and it started moving down, towards Level 2!
Stopped by two doors (the right one had a frightknight over it). They decided to take the door without the FrightKnight over it.
Through an eye-shield sequence, up some steps made of brick or wood (but making a metal noise, somehow). Only a slight digital effect applied to this sequence.
Hordriss was in the next room at a desk. Timed out just as the dungeoneer sat down. Smirkenoff flight sequence under the credits - looks like he's flying back to Wolfenden! Which version of the Broadsword logo was that? I don't remember it from CITV or Sci-Fi!
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Here we go again!
Two thinks of note - first of all I never realised Smirky used to be blue and I noticed that Paul Valentine hasn't quite got his Sly Hands voice.
Gwendoline gave a good quote about "destroying spoilers" - can anyone remember the full line?
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And with a cloaked Treguard standing outside Knightmare Castle, Series 5 begins. Our first team are asked by Treguard which item they want to redeem (they choose the cup) and Dungeoneer Kathryn walks through the really horrible looking dungeon door effect. Sorry, I hate it with a passion, purple lines moving left and right does not a portal make. Why didn't they just tint it blue, or something? That would have been much more effective. Note that the eye shield is now given to the dungeoneer along with the knapsack and helmet, rather than seperately.
Enough moaning! Let's get on with the quest! We see a mute Smirkenoff in his first ever appearance (Treguard makes the first ever reference to the Powers that Be here), followed by an old face versus a knew face- Brother Mace and Sylvester Hands. I noticed Paul Valentine hasn't got Hands' voice right yet, it's more gravelly and serious than later on. Then came Wolfglade and Julius Scaramonger, another first appearance, who gives them a spyglass. Note that the glass was completely black, otherwise it would have reflected the blue room. And then came Lord Fear's first appearance! The sequence didn't give that much away compared to later series, and Mark Knight hadn't quite nailed LF's voice yet, but was still a neat debut. I loved the blood red eyes! The episode then continued with debuts for Gwendoline, an ultra cool looking Blocker, the Decender, and ended with a knew Broadsword logo. Oddly the sound effect was at a very low pitch...and RIGHT at the end we saw an unusual Anglia endcap!
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EDIT: Just for reference the thread that this was in a seperate thread with Tom41's post. As the threads have been merged I've removed the rest of my post as it won't make much sense now.
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It seemed like they were trying to introduce as many characters (old and new) into one episode as possible. Interesting looking at the floor of the decender the angle of the 'reflection' is out in comparison to the walls.
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I really do not like the outside parts of the dungeon. But I know there are people who do so I wont moan more bout it.
Some of the most memorable cast memebers are introduced here. Sly Hands, Scaramonger (or however u spell his name), Smirkenorff and of course LF.
Was it this seris or the next that Hordriss shifts over to the Powers that Be. I think its more the next but im not so sure. But next this seris is there there are long running stories within the dungeon i think.
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Officially Hordriss decided to work for the powers that be in the closing episodes of series 6. It was before the final team (I think) he contacted Treguard offering to send Sidriss to help the team etc. Though in series 6 Hordriss was working more on side of the powers that be.
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Well, let's see...Started out quite slow. Lots of yellow is not good for one's eyes. Mayhap that's why pickle was quiet? He was stunned into silence by the oh! so yellow! shirts. Met Smirky for the first time. Very strange watching him without a voice. Mace and sly hands next. Sly does sound a little off. Met Scaramonger next, and fans of Rocky horror will know he's hiding a fabulous body under those clothes...Ahem. Back on track, Scaramonger gave a spyglass in return for a bag of gold from mace. First spyglass sequence followed. Lord F performs his party trick. Questioned by the boring warden and earned password. Blocked by a blocker. Down in the descender. (Hurrah! love that descender!) Timed out as they met hordriss. All in all an enjoyable but ultimately forgettable episode. Credits featured no snarky comments from Challenge! announcers.
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I have now merged the topic. As stated, there is at least 1 thread for each episode now, so please find those first before posting an unnecessary duplicate thread.
As for this episode, it is my favourite start of the season.
Immediately you can tell that the dungeon has expanded, and is far more colourful.
Smirkey is far less animated than in future seasons, and that is mainly due to him not having a voice. Pickle, too, seems a lot less animated than in S4. Is this because he no longer HAS any decent advice to give th dungeoneers? It sure feels that way.
Lots of new characters, and of course, the famous Wolfenden which we now have on-location pictures of. Very interesting episode, and sets up the season very well.
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Interesting how, when Treguard is talking about the four quest objects, he says: "Each may be found in a different place and perhaps time, and portions of each may well be found separately." As they hadn't used the "collecting fragments" method since Series 3, and surely had no intention of using it in Series 5, I wonder why he even bothered mentioning it!
Similarly, what on earth was the point of Brother Mace saying that Scaramonger might even give them "directions into the mines of Malapith"? There was absolutely no further mention of it, so I'm not sure why he brought that up. I wonder if it was something they meant to follow up later and forgot.
There seemed to be a lot of explaining things (new series=new viewers I guess) but the team didn't appear to understand the game. OK there was new rooms and characters but they seemed to be in over their heads!
At least one of Kathryn's advisors had obviously never seen Knightmare before!
[The Descender begins to move.]
Advisor: "Oh! You're going... down??"
Pickle: "You must be on your way to Level 2!"
Advisor: (frowns) "Do we want to go up??"
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Just watched this with my 4 yr old. A few thoughts/observations.
My son was getting very bored - that's a first! - the Smirkenoff scene was far too long, there were far too many eyeshield scenes and the Julius scene went on forever!!
Looking at a previous post they mention how one of the advisors has never seen Knightmare before..... I could almost believe NONE of this team have, their ignorance was staggering - I've also never seen such a bored looking team, did they just grab them off the street?
Sylvester Hands didn't sound or look very much like himself.
Level 1 was far too easy, the only challenge was getting one question right - which they did....
I liked Treguards intro outside the castle.
Hope episode 2 is a bit more exciting
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Series 5 ? Has there been an episode this week ? Last I saw they were at the end of Series 4 last Sunday and don't believe there's been another episode broadcast in the time since ?
I'm referring of course to the Challenge re-runs, but seems unlikely such as one episode follows the other.
It would be disappointing to learn I've missed out on an episode I didn't realise had been shown but there will be other opportunities to catch up.
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Series 5 ? Has there been an episode this week ?
No, Challenge doesn't have the rights to Series 5 at the moment.
Well that is a relief, I genuinely thought I'd missed out on episode since last viewing.
If Challenge doesn't possess the rights to show as mentioned, then looks like we'll have a wait until the next episodes are broadcast. I do hope it isn't too long before they put them on again (preferably a channel that shows them every day of the week would be ideal but of course that simply isn't going to happen)
This just emphasises the importance of bringing the series to DVD home viewing. (Youtube is always available but not advised on a pay as you go basis) Add to that, the picture / audio quality is sometimes sub-standard (when watching Youtube clips of the series)
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Sorry, we did watch it on You Tube! We have watched what is available on Sky at the moment i.e - 2/3 of season 3 and halfof season 4.
I would buy a DVD release in a heartbeat! I hate watching you tube but the boy wanted more Knightmare!!!
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On this first flight for Smirkenorff (here's an official clip), perhaps the saddle hasn't been properly adjusted as Kathryn slides about a bit during the landing...
The middle advisor Fay Keenan is now a successful author. Here's her website. In an old tweet about Knightmare, Fay refers to 'outtakes galore'.
I have never been able to make out what Pickle exclaims when they first see Lord Fear through the spyglass. Does anyone know?
My best guess is that he's using "blood oath" as a mild expletive.
I've also never seen such a bored looking team
In judging contestants on how they appear on screen, we should never underestimate the rigours of drawn-out, stop-start filming and being away from home. While the 'roll out' of so many new elements may have been enthralling for us watchers, for the team it meant questing at its most passive: an entire level with no clue object choices, no portal choices, no puzzles and just one riddle. I doubt the team would have been expecting that, so I can forgive them if (in other people's opinions) they don't look as engaged as other teams.
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To mark the return of horseracing and outdoor markets this week, an observation: Sir Hugh and Neddy appear in the background when Team 1 visits Wolfenden.
Wolfenden Series 5 Quest 1.jpg
This means that the first Mark Knight character to appear in Knightmare was not Lord Fear, even if the rider wasn't Mark Knight himself.
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Blimey, looking at it, that scene probably features more background characters than the Crazed Heifer pre lockdown!
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