Series 5 Episode 1
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EDIT: Just for reference the thread that this was in a seperate thread with Tom41's post. As the threads have been merged I've removed the rest of my post as it won't make much sense now.
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It seemed like they were trying to introduce as many characters (old and new) into one episode as possible. Interesting looking at the floor of the decender the angle of the 'reflection' is out in comparison to the walls.
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I really do not like the outside parts of the dungeon. But I know there are people who do so I wont moan more bout it.
Some of the most memorable cast memebers are introduced here. Sly Hands, Scaramonger (or however u spell his name), Smirkenorff and of course LF.
Was it this seris or the next that Hordriss shifts over to the Powers that Be. I think its more the next but im not so sure. But next this seris is there there are long running stories within the dungeon i think.
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Officially Hordriss decided to work for the powers that be in the closing episodes of series 6. It was before the final team (I think) he contacted Treguard offering to send Sidriss to help the team etc. Though in series 6 Hordriss was working more on side of the powers that be.
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Well, let's see...Started out quite slow. Lots of yellow is not good for one's eyes. Mayhap that's why pickle was quiet? He was stunned into silence by the oh! so yellow! shirts. Met Smirky for the first time. Very strange watching him without a voice. Mace and sly hands next. Sly does sound a little off. Met Scaramonger next, and fans of Rocky horror will know he's hiding a fabulous body under those clothes...Ahem. Back on track, Scaramonger gave a spyglass in return for a bag of gold from mace. First spyglass sequence followed. Lord F performs his party trick. Questioned by the boring warden and earned password. Blocked by a blocker. Down in the descender. (Hurrah! love that descender!) Timed out as they met hordriss. All in all an enjoyable but ultimately forgettable episode. Credits featured no snarky comments from Challenge! announcers.
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I have now merged the topic. As stated, there is at least 1 thread for each episode now, so please find those first before posting an unnecessary duplicate thread.
As for this episode, it is my favourite start of the season.
Immediately you can tell that the dungeon has expanded, and is far more colourful.
Smirkey is far less animated than in future seasons, and that is mainly due to him not having a voice. Pickle, too, seems a lot less animated than in S4. Is this because he no longer HAS any decent advice to give th dungeoneers? It sure feels that way.
Lots of new characters, and of course, the famous Wolfenden which we now have on-location pictures of. Very interesting episode, and sets up the season very well.
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Interesting how, when Treguard is talking about the four quest objects, he says: "Each may be found in a different place and perhaps time, and portions of each may well be found separately." As they hadn't used the "collecting fragments" method since Series 3, and surely had no intention of using it in Series 5, I wonder why he even bothered mentioning it!
Similarly, what on earth was the point of Brother Mace saying that Scaramonger might even give them "directions into the mines of Malapith"? There was absolutely no further mention of it, so I'm not sure why he brought that up. I wonder if it was something they meant to follow up later and forgot.
There seemed to be a lot of explaining things (new series=new viewers I guess) but the team didn't appear to understand the game. OK there was new rooms and characters but they seemed to be in over their heads!
At least one of Kathryn's advisors had obviously never seen Knightmare before!
[The Descender begins to move.]
Advisor: "Oh! You're going... down??"
Pickle: "You must be on your way to Level 2!"
Advisor: (frowns) "Do we want to go up??"
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Just watched this with my 4 yr old. A few thoughts/observations.
My son was getting very bored - that's a first! - the Smirkenoff scene was far too long, there were far too many eyeshield scenes and the Julius scene went on forever!!
Looking at a previous post they mention how one of the advisors has never seen Knightmare before..... I could almost believe NONE of this team have, their ignorance was staggering - I've also never seen such a bored looking team, did they just grab them off the street?
Sylvester Hands didn't sound or look very much like himself.
Level 1 was far too easy, the only challenge was getting one question right - which they did....
I liked Treguards intro outside the castle.
Hope episode 2 is a bit more exciting
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Series 5 ? Has there been an episode this week ? Last I saw they were at the end of Series 4 last Sunday and don't believe there's been another episode broadcast in the time since ?
I'm referring of course to the Challenge re-runs, but seems unlikely such as one episode follows the other.
It would be disappointing to learn I've missed out on an episode I didn't realise had been shown but there will be other opportunities to catch up.
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Series 5 ? Has there been an episode this week ?
No, Challenge doesn't have the rights to Series 5 at the moment.
Well that is a relief, I genuinely thought I'd missed out on episode since last viewing.
If Challenge doesn't possess the rights to show as mentioned, then looks like we'll have a wait until the next episodes are broadcast. I do hope it isn't too long before they put them on again (preferably a channel that shows them every day of the week would be ideal but of course that simply isn't going to happen)
This just emphasises the importance of bringing the series to DVD home viewing. (Youtube is always available but not advised on a pay as you go basis) Add to that, the picture / audio quality is sometimes sub-standard (when watching Youtube clips of the series)
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Sorry, we did watch it on You Tube! We have watched what is available on Sky at the moment i.e - 2/3 of season 3 and halfof season 4.
I would buy a DVD release in a heartbeat! I hate watching you tube but the boy wanted more Knightmare!!!
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On this first flight for Smirkenorff (here's an official clip), perhaps the saddle hasn't been properly adjusted as Kathryn slides about a bit during the landing...
The middle advisor Fay Keenan is now a successful author. Here's her website. In an old tweet about Knightmare, Fay refers to 'outtakes galore'.
I have never been able to make out what Pickle exclaims when they first see Lord Fear through the spyglass. Does anyone know?
My best guess is that he's using "blood oath" as a mild expletive.
I've also never seen such a bored looking team
In judging contestants on how they appear on screen, we should never underestimate the rigours of drawn-out, stop-start filming and being away from home. While the 'roll out' of so many new elements may have been enthralling for us watchers, for the team it meant questing at its most passive: an entire level with no clue object choices, no portal choices, no puzzles and just one riddle. I doubt the team would have been expecting that, so I can forgive them if (in other people's opinions) they don't look as engaged as other teams.
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To mark the return of horseracing and outdoor markets this week, an observation: Sir Hugh and Neddy appear in the background when Team 1 visits Wolfenden.
Wolfenden Series 5 Quest 1.jpg
This means that the first Mark Knight character to appear in Knightmare was not Lord Fear, even if the rider wasn't Mark Knight himself.
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Blimey, looking at it, that scene probably features more background characters than the Crazed Heifer pre lockdown!
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A nice intro to the series, with Treguard standing outside.
Like the way teams now have to choose their quest in advance and the eye-shield is given out during the intro, to save time
Team 1 looked very smart in their matching outfits. (the bee team) I reckon that this is what S2 team 3 were trying for, but one lad must have forgotten his yellow shirt.
The actual quest had a slow start. Took forever to get on the dragon, then the flight seemed to be very long.
Finally encountered Brother Mace playing cards with a new character, the shifty Sylvester Hands. (Great to see Mace again. )
Accepted some gold from Mace to take to a bloke called Julius Scaramonger, whom they soon found. He turned out to be a very slippery, smarmy character. They received a spyglass, which they used to see the new villain: Lord Fear. The first sign of a massive change in plotlines.
Into the forest and they met Gwendoline, a stroppy greenwood guard, who is a menace with her bow&arrows. Earned a password from her.
First sighting of the blocker walls, which looked a bit like like 3-d wall monsters. Used the password to get by it.
Into a descender to level 2, where they took the left-hand door to avoid a fright-knight symbol.
Encountered Hordriss as time-out arrived. (Nice to see another familiar face return. )
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