lord fear, castle, Pools and knights
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Well in the early series there was really no 'Arch-villain' although Mogdread personified wickedness - however Treguard did not have a side really, the dungeoneers were more neutral in my view although they were more likely to be helped by Merlin and the sight of light.
However, in series 4 Pickle joined and through his talk with Treguard there was more of an emphasis on the fight against the powers of evil. So I'm guessing there needed to be more of a focus on evil at that point and what more apt way of doing so than to bring in Lord Fear the following series (though why they got rid of Merlin and Mogdread I'll never know - I guess John Woodnutt just moved on!)
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Ah, so it was just a knight. I checked on this site after posting and it has it down as a Frightknight. LOL.
My brain had completely misplaced the Frightknight timers. Thanks for the reminder.
Purgatory, if you go to the Series Guides on this site you'll find sime links to stills and videos that feature Lord Fear's different environments.
Actually, the early Seasons did have a "big bad guy". He only got mentions in Series 1, but then appeared to terrorise dungeoneers in Series 2-4. His name was Mogdred, and he was pretty evil.
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series (though why they got rid of Merlin and Mogdread I'll never know - I guess John Woodnutt just moved on!)
In his History of Knightmare, Tim Child says that by the end of Series 4 he thought the whole Merlin/Mogdred scenario had run its course. I think he also said he'd always found it derivative, which of course it was! I guess he made the decision that it was time for something original.
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Can't help but disagree. Everything is derivative - if we had no derrivation, there would be no... nothing. Knightmare was a medieval fantasy, so I think the inclusion of Merlin and Mogdread was the right thing! Ah well.
And although Mogdread was very, very, very evil, I can;t help but say that he was Merlin's arch-rival, not Treguard's... I think he just killed off dungeoneers for fun.
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I think you're probably disagreeing more with TC than me. I just stated that it was derivative. I don't think I said it was too derivative in my view.
Anyway, here's what he said:
"The Merlin/Mogdred scenario was exhausted (in any case I had always found it annoyingly derivative) and I was convinced that the drama game engine of Knightmare must be driven by a really solid baddy."
I think I personally agree with you. I thought Mogdred was extremely effective, although perhaps all things have their shelf life. I occasionally thought the humour value in Lord Fear's scenes were pushed slightly too far, whereas Mogdred was so much more serious.
I especially agree on Mog. being Merlin's enemy. I liked the idea of Treguard having some neutrality, so he could have a few "evilish" moments. Mogdred just killing dungeoneers for fun, as you put it, makes him sound more powerful too. If the villains' sole aim was to kill the kidsies, some of them made pretty awful jobs of it- if these supposedly powerful sorcerers have to plan and scheme just to kill a blindfolded 13 year old who can only carry 2 objects at a time, it doesn't say much for them! If you reason that the kidsies just get in the way, then the villains keep some integrity.
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I occasionally thought the humour value in Lord Fear's scenes were pushed slightly too far, whereas Mogdred was so much more serious.
BTW, I'm not trying to put Mogdred ahead of LF here. Just saying one thing about him I personally preferred.
For Purgatory's benefit, here's the old guy himself:
[img width=212 height=190]http://www.knightmare.com/series/2/76.jpg[/img]
There's nothing wrong with that skin that a few days in the sun wouldn't fix.
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um i remember the name but not that picture,
so what was the story of lord fears roll? did they just start the season with him there or was there something behind it?
once i get some time im gonna have read all the though the seasons on this site, ive had a look over a few months and stuff but not really looked at hard, and my mind is very blurry when it comes to the very early seasons.. i can remember watching them , but just cant remember them,
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On the original question, I think I preferred the final season's environment, though to be honest, they were all pretty good
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I always thought when I was younger that Morgdred was a cross between the Emperor out of Starwars and a monk
Although I hated some of the later series characters I did like the new lord fear backgrounds and his meddling with technology / alien artifacts background. It kind of made it more interesting (and similar to Saruman in the Lord of the Rings with his "March of Technology" ethic
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Although I hated some of the later series characters I did like the new lord fear backgrounds and his meddling with technology / alien artifacts background. It kind of made it more interesting (and similar to Saruman in the Lord of the Rings with his "March of Technology" ethic
An interesting idea. As I've hinted before, I'd have loved the Brollachan's story to be something like the Balrog from LOTR- so for "the dwarves delved too deeply and awoke an unnamed horror", read "Lord Fear spread his virtual clutches too wide and awoke something truly perilous to both the Powers That Be and the Opposition".
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Apart from behind lord fear in the spy glass scenes from season 5? Did they actually appear to attack dungeoneers ever?
Also, can anyone confirm an early memory of hordiss making a ledge disappear beneath a dungeoneer or sending a sword after them on a ledge and ultimately killing them? Or was it Morgdred or someone else?
I though Hordiss was a goody
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I can't remember dungeoneers ever meeting a Frightknight. Mogdred used to crumble ledges but I don't know if he ever killed anyone. Morghanna did though.
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In Series 3, Hordriss definitely would've killed. He sent a magic sword after Leo in Series 3, but the team cast a dispel on SWORD which forced him to beat a hasty retreat! Ironically, the team cast DROWS, which is the name for the dark elf race!
...ahem...
You may be thinking of Morghanna, who sent a sword after Ross, and he fell off a thin ledge and died. Malice and Mogdread also crumbled bridges. No dungeoneer died by falling off a crumbling bridge - it was simply a case of power walk and live!
Anyway, the Frightknights were used on the causeways in Series 6, but that's the closest any dungeoneer got to them.
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