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Series 2 - Episode 8

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  • wombstarW
    wombstarW
    wombstar
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    The cavernwraith is like the skulls and pookas, They only drain life force.

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      I'm surprised the production team didn't do a retake when Hugo fluffed his lines. At some point later in series 2 he fluffs his lines again!

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        The fact that such a valuable clue was provided by Granitas despite them only getting one riddle correct did seem strange, and inconsistent with other teams. For example, Julie from Series 3 scored 2/3 against the Brangwen She, and was told nothing except for the object of her quest!

        The 'SHRUD' incident is in my opinion the second funniest Knightmare moment ever (second only to Simon, sidestep to your left...) This is possibly the first time that Mogdred appeared in a non-terrifying capacity.

        Incidentally, the riddle that the team was given on the magic plant that doubles was identical to the one that me and my team were given when auditioning for Knightmare Series 8! We got it right, but didn't make the cut!

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        • MystaraM
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          Same here actually. We got exactly that riddle too.

          Obviously a Knightmare-crew favourite.

          https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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            rmcintosh1983
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            It must be! I was the one to get it right, despite being the youngest team member! I also remember one about two watches, where you had to state which the more accurate was.

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            • MystaraM
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              Mystara
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              Yep. Had that too

              https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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              • HobGoblinH
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                I would have hoped that all teams of around the same age auditioning for a particular series were asked the same riddles. That said, not sure if Fair Selection existed back then!

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                  I've just noticed something. Granitas gives them a hint about using the dagger to dismiss the cavernwraith, which they later do. But in between, Mildread gives them this mysterious word STALACTITE, remarking that "the word is mightier than the sword". Were they perhaps supposed to use the word instead of the dagger? That would explain why it has no use later in the quest, but then why would Granitas have given them the dagger clue in the first place?

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                  • wombstarW
                    wombstarW
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                    I think Mildred gave them a fake password for having giving her the wrong item.

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                      I've just noticed something. Granitas gives them a hint about using the dagger to dismiss the cavernwraith, which they later do. But in between, Mildread gives them this mysterious word STALACTITE, remarking that "the word is mightier than the sword". Were they perhaps supposed to use the word instead of the dagger? That would explain why it has no use later in the quest, but then why would Granitas have given them the dagger clue in the first place?

                      It was strange in the first place for a weapon of the opposition to be used as it goes against the grain. But then again Granitas clearly indicated that the team should take the dagger. As previously mentioned, this was a strange quest!

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                        pjmlfc05
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                        I think Mildred gave them a fake password for having giving her the wrong item.

                        If that was the case then the production team should killed them off!

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                        • wombstarW
                          wombstarW
                          wombstar
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                          Maybe the other team hadn't arrived?

                          Or they wanted to drag it on a bit longer as the previous quest was quite short?

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                            pjmlfc05
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                            Yeah it is most likely the next team hadn't arrived yet so the production team let them carry on.

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                              Mildread gives them this mysterious word STALACTITE, remarking that "the word is mightier than the sword". Were they perhaps supposed to use the word instead of the dagger?

                              That would have been far too subtle for them. Granitas told them that the dagger was not for use against flesh, and Treguard later emphasised that the cavernwraith had no flesh, so I think they did what they were meant to do. In Series 4, we again saw a dagger that was intended for use as a magical object rather than a weapon.

                              When the team tried giving "stalactite" to Cedric, he replied that it wasn't the password "for this level". This supports the theory that it would have got them past Gumboil on Level 1, had they encountered him. Gumboil tended to carry a sword...

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                                When the team tried giving "stalactite" to Cedric, he replied that it wasn't the password "for this level". This supports the theory that it would have got them past Gumboil on Level 1, had they encountered him. Gumboil tended to carry a sword...
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                                There may have been a chance then that the quest was edited. Otherwise surely the team would had to encounter Gumboil at the end of level 1? That's as far as the team should have got to anyway!

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                                • wombstarW
                                  wombstarW
                                  wombstar
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                                  They still tried to use the word, so even if things were cut they couldn't have used it on level one. Unless it was one of Mildred's tricks.

                                  It was probably means to be the level one password and in the end they didn't bother with it. Guess we may never know.

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                                    Yeah only Tim Child or Neil and the team can say what really happened while all we can do is speculate!

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                                      Canadanne
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                                      When the team tried giving "stalactite" to Cedric, he replied that it wasn't the password "for this level". This supports the theory that it would have got them past Gumboil on Level 1, had they encountered him. Gumboil tended to carry a sword...

                                      Oh, hmm, that's an interesting observation! You could be onto something there - that it WAS a valid password, just not the one they needed.

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                                        When the team tried giving "stalactite" to Cedric, he replied that it wasn't the password "for this level". This supports the theory that it would have got them past Gumboil on Level 1, had they encountered him. Gumboil tended to carry a sword...

                                        Oh, hmm, that's an interesting observation! You could be onto something there - that it WAS a valid password, just not the one they needed.

                                        This convinces me even more that a edit took place. The team wouldn't be aware of this and would be none the wiser. Could there be a possibility the actor who played Gumboil might not have been available at the time so the production team had to alter the script? Maybe instead of shooting a scene with Gumboil they let the team use the dagger which was the correct thing to do and then carry on from level 2?

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                                        • MorghannaM
                                          MorghannaM
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                                          Team 7 didn't do well in the clue room with only 1/3 against Granitas. However, they still got a vital clue, that the dagger could be used, tho not against flesh. After some indecision, they took the potion not the bone.

                                          So they got to Mildread and she wanted a bone for her cauldron! Their reaction showed that they thought they were doomed. There was a noticeable sigh of relief when she surprisingly accepted the potion instead. Was this a let-off for team 7, or was it an example of Mildread's twisted humour?

                                          They used the dagger to get rid of the cavernwraith in the well room. Was this the first time a team had successfully used a weapon in Knightmare?

                                          Quickly reached the clue room in level 2, but there was only a key (which they took) and some bones, which they eventually left. Were the producers trying to see if the team could be tricked into taking the bones this time?

                                          Next, the vale of Mogdred and one of the most memorable scenes in Knightmare history:

                                          Mogdred spell cast "SHROUD" so that Neil disappeared. They then tried to dispel several times each time forgetting the letter O, then discussed several other useless ideas, before heavy hinting from Treguard finally sorted them out.

                                          Very competently won the combat chess, but dithered in the hall of spears. Quickly got out of Ariadne's room, then summoned Merlin just before time froze again.

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