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  • HobGoblinH
    HobGoblinH
    HobGoblin
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    #63

    Perhaps this all comes down to the question of what is knightmare.com trying to achieve? Why was there a request for new articles? Is the site merely a place for existing KM fans to come and chew the fat or is it trying to promote the show and expand the fanbase? What are the site’s objectives re. traffic, interactivity etc?

    If we can come up with a satisfactory answer to the ‘so what?’ question then perhaps a strategy can be developed to take the site forward in an appropriate direction (and maybe this will lead to a decision that things are fine as they are).

    Gosh, all this talk of ‘strategy’ and ‘objectives’ sounds very formal but hopefully you understand what I’m trying to say. I appreciate that a fan site run by volunteers is unlikely to have a sophisticated governance model .

    I think Drassil is correct in saying that people have moved on from traditional forums to social media. These days, people expect things to come to them and, with busy timelines constantly being updated with new information, competition for attention is fierce. The recent request for a rebuttal article to my jump the shark piece probably wasn’t seen by many because the original article had already been buried under a landslide of other people’s status updates.

    Even if people comment on FB articles they probably don’t expect a response (and most probably don’t even check to see if any further comments are made). It’s also interesting to see how many very brief comments are made via mobile phone – this is a very superficial form of engagement. It was nice seeing a few comments of multiple sentences on my jump the shark article, though I suspect a significant number of those commenting had actually read nothing more than the article’s title.

    Then again, thousands of people being exposed to a KM article inherently feels like a positive thing. So perhaps FB is good for exposure but not so good for discussion. It comes back to – does any of this matter?!

    Anyway, we’ll see if a link on Challenge’s website sends a few more people this way...

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      Canadanne
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      FYI, challenge did get back to me, and said:

      "I know we aren't allowed to promote third party websites on air but maybe we could direct people to our website and our Knightmare page then put a link to your site on there? Our website guy is off until Thursday so I'll discuss with him :-)"

      So hopefully, there'll be something on the horizon.

      I see Challenge have now promoted the site and forum on their Facebook page!

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        pjmlfc05
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        That's good news! Who know's? It may bring new fans to the site as they may not have even be aware of it. Anything that spreads the word with regards to the forum and site can only be a good thing.

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          Canadanne
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          In the last month I've seen two tweets about new articles on Knightmare.com, but the links have led to 404 errors. Are the articles supposed to be visible, or were the tweets premature?

          http://twitter.com/Knightmare_CITV/status/406775674121498624

          http://twitter.com/Knightmare_CITV/status/417454271131840512

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          • MystaraM
            MystaraM
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            The Lee Gunnell article was deleted after it received complaints.

            The other one I'm less sure about, but I suspect it's since been reclassified, moved, or deleted. I don't think there's any way to update a tweet with revised addresses once it's been made.

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              Drassil
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              The other one I'm less sure about, but I suspect it's since been reclassified, moved, or deleted. I don't think there's any way to update a tweet with revised addresses once it's been made.

              This was due to a clerical error when I submitted the article. I became aware of this almost immediately, and unpublished the article so that further work could be done on it, but I was too late to stop the automatic tweet having been triggered. With any luck the article will be published properly before the end of the day, given that it's a look back at the past year.

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                Canadanne
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                With any luck the article will be published properly before the end of the day, given that it's a look back at the past year.

                Cool, I look forward to reading that!

                Sorry I missed the other one, it sounds intriguing.

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                • MystaraM
                  MystaraM
                  Mystara
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                  Unless you're a fan of paedophile jokes, you haven't missed much.

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                    Canadanne
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                    #71

                    Ah, I can probably guess how that one went. What a daft thing to submit for publication!

                    Really enjoyed your 2013 review, David. It was an even more eventful year than I'd realised!

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                      pjmlfc05
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                      Unless you're a fan of paedophile jokes, you haven't missed much.

                      No wonder it got deleted if that was why. Don't need garbage like that.

                      On a positive note, good work on the 2013 review David! For me 2013 has been the best year Knightmare has had since Knightmare ceased broadcasting.

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                        Drassil
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                        Thank you for the positive comments about my 2013 review. I felt it would reflect poorly on Knightmare.com not to have one, so I'm glad it's been received well.

                        No wonder it got deleted if that was why. Don't need garbage like that.

                        Each time I've seen Knightmare Live, one of the advisors has tried to make a joke along these lines (e.g. Yewtree). And each time, Paul Flannery/Treguard has been quick to condemn them for "lazy comedy"!

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                        • HobGoblinH
                          HobGoblinH
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                          I actually stumbled on this article a few months ago by googling knightmare and looking through many pages of results. Questionable 'jokes' aside it's pretty offensive to fans of the show - despite a 'too little, too late' claim to the contrary, the writer obviously isn't particularly keen on the programme.

                          I cannot believe he ever thought it would be suitable material for this site!

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                          • SkarkillS
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                            I'd just like to add my compliments to and say that I thought Drassil's 2013 article was very well researched and written.

                            It was engaging informative and brilliant summation of Knightmare in 2013 and everything that had happened within the fandom of KM in 2013.

                            It was a fantastic bite sized crash course for someone like me who was getting back into the fandom on what they had missed in the previous year.

                            Well done mate.

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                              Drassil
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                              Thanks for the tip, Chris: I've now read the deleted article in the author's blog. I find the tone slightly menacing and I'm sad that it was ever published on Knightmare.com. My compliments to whoever raised concerns about it.

                              And thank you, Ricky, for such high praise of my 2013 article. I'm not sure I'd have believed what a remarkable year 2013 was for Knightmare if I hadn't written it all out!

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                                Canadanne
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                                Oh, that article. Yeah, I stumbled across that one a few months ago too, and complained about its tone elsewhere - the inappropriate "jokes" about Knightmare are the least of its problems.

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                                  Yeah in light of what was written in the article, made me annoyed how he could write something like that. Tasteless is putting it lightly.

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