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  • HobGoblinH
    HobGoblinH
    HobGoblin
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    #26

    I must admit to always accepting KM Castle as its official name. When I was a child I just assumed the show was named after the location and have never questioned that assumption.

    My earliest KM memories are S2 and the first book so as far as I'm concerned that's just what it's called, for good or bad!

    I suppose i could see why you might consider it fourth wall breaking if it was a latter day nickname which somehow stuck but I've never thought of the castle as anything else. The 'castle of confusion' was always just a description to my mind.

    'The Dungeon' is the specific bit of KM Castle where the quests take place so perhaps that could be used for the convention space

    Also, the show was constantly breaking the fourth wall - indeed, its very premise rested on the interaction between worlds.

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    • HStormH
      HStormH
      HStorm
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      #27

      How about 'The Convention of Confusion'?

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        pjmlfc05
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        #28

        I must admit to always accepting KM Castle as its official name. When I was a child I just assumed the show was named after the location and have never questioned that assumption.

        My earliest KM memories are S2 and the first book so as far as I'm concerned that's just what it's called, for good or bad!

        I suppose i could see why you might consider it fourth wall breaking if it was a latter day nickname which somehow stuck but I've never thought of the castle as anything else. The 'castle of confusion' was always just a description to my mind.

        'The Dungeon' is the specific bit of KM Castle where the quests take place so perhaps that could be used for the convention space

        Also, the show was constantly breaking the fourth wall - indeed, its very premise rested on the interaction between worlds.

        The brollachan from series 7 referred to Knightmare castle when asking Barry a question I believe and I'm sure Barry also mentioned something with regards to Knightmare castle too!

        How about 'The Convention of Confusion'?

        Like this one a lot!

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        • HobGoblinH
          HobGoblinH
          HobGoblin
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          #29

          I quite like The Convention of Confusion but have a couple of concerns:

          From a marketing perspective, is the meaning obviously apparent to the casual KM fan/ casual attendee? It might not be the case but are we on this forum much more familiar with the lexicon than many and so would immediately make a link to KM where others wouldn't?

          It's a lot of syllables and would be abbreviated to COC. Verbally, it would become 'Cock 2014' and may attract entirely the wrong crowd.

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            pjmlfc05
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            I quite like The Convention of Confusion but have a couple of concerns:

            From a marketing perspective, is the meaning obviously apparent to the casual KM fan/ casual attendee? It might not be the case but are we on this forum much more familiar with the lexicon than many and so would immediately make a link to KM where others wouldn't?

            It's a lot of syllables and would be abbreviated to COC. Verbally, it would become 'Cock 2014' and may attract entirely the wrong crowd.

            LOL!

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            • MystaraM
              MystaraM
              Mystara
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              wrote on last edited by
              #31

              I intentionally avoided putting any advice in my original request, to try and get some ideas that might not ordinarily arise. However, some things that might be worth keeping in mind:

              • Generic names are fine. However, we want to avoid names that suggest the convention relates to something else. For example, we previously eliminated "JusticeCon".

              • More obscure references to Knightmare are slightly less desirable than more explicit ones because then the name says what it is. This isn't all that big a deal though.

              https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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                Drassil
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                #32

                Yes, I was just going to suggest spelling it Fayre for those very reasons!

                Me too. KnightFayre ticks all the boxes for me, and according to Google, it isn't taken.

                Other ideas: Level 4, although it looks like Level 42 with a digit missed off; as a parody of TOWIE, TOWIO (The Only Way Is Onward), which may work better as a subtitle; in tribute to Team 5 of Series 7, BrollyCon.

                Tania has been on the Facebook page today, volunteering to be a special guest at the convention if it happens - I say take her up on the offer!

                Special guest? She may be hoping that we'll pay her to attend, rather than her paying us.

                I have to say, within Knightmare, I detest the name "Knightmare Castle". For me, it's so fourth wall breaking.

                Knightmare's take on the old saying would seem to be that walls are made to be broken. And the fourth wall in Knightmare is a knowingly flimsy construct that only really exists during gameplay, and even then is not unbreakable, as demonstrated during Akash's quest. After all, Treguard invited the watchers many times to "join us again for Knightmare." Thinking about it, I tend to regard Knightmare as the name that applies to the Dungeon(s), with Dunshelm being the true name of the castle. It's more authentic with a slightly subtler pun. What I didn't realise until playing Knightmare QI in TES is that we have to wait until Quest 9 of Series 3 before we hear Dunshelm mentioned in the programme itself.

                I must admit to always accepting KM Castle as its official name. When I was a child I just assumed the show was named after the location and have never questioned that assumption.

                This makes me think of Greek mythology's Underworld being known as Hades because Hades ruled it.

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                • wombstarW
                  wombstarW
                  wombstar
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                  #33

                  If you read the first book it was originally Dunshelm castle before being renamed by the evil wizard as a sick joke.

                  So official it is Dunshelm Castle, but kept the reputation of being Knightmare Castle due to the presence of the Dungeon.

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                  • HobGoblinH
                    HobGoblinH
                    HobGoblin
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                    #34

                    Is this still on the cards then? At one point it was 'January or never' so I was getting worried it had fallen through...

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                      stockholmsyndrome
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                      #35

                      The Convention of Confusion

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                      • wombstarW
                        wombstarW
                        wombstar
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                        #36

                        As it was said the full geek week episode will be saved for a possible convention I was guess it's still on the cards bit not yet.

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                        • MystaraM
                          MystaraM
                          Mystara
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                          #37

                          Is this still on the cards then? At one point it was 'January or never' so I was getting worried it had fallen through...

                          It's made very very little progress.

                          https://www.twicetwice.co.uk/

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