The Goblins
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Side note: (in case this hasn't come up already) Rayner Bourton, the actor who played Skarkill and Julius Scaramonger, was also in the original 1973 production of The Rocky Horror Show. He played Rocky. I'm not sure whether I should be disturbed or not...
I'm really frightened...
Seriously...
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I like the goblins. I think they are cool villains. So much so i am making a goblin costume for halloween. Yes i know its a bit early.
I would like some tips on the costume and advice on how the hands look as i might have to make them myself. I have made the mask from a human face mask, paper mache and acrylic paint and am slowly getting the stuff together to make the costume.
Have just started making the club from sticks and parcel tape. Will be putting masking tape on it to paint it brown and finish it off.
The hands i think will be tricky to get/make. Would green shrek hands or brown giant hands work for it or do i need to get a pair of washing up gloves, false nails and some liquid latex and do it myself?
Have been watching clips of goblins and looking at pictures of them to see what they wear.
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Make sure you send us photographic results of your endeavours!
In terms of hands, mostly from my experience filthy make up mix of green and brown would suffice. The face tho will be a good challenge to achieve right.
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Will do. Will do so as soon as i can.
Will ask one of the bosses of the forum to put the photos up onto the website as that might be easier to do than posting pictures on the forum.
As i haven't figured out how to post photos on the forum yet. Still working that out.
That's why i've described what i've done so far. What i want to do is show it off like a mum or grandmother shows off her new born offspring or grandchildren to her visitors. As i am very chuffed with it so far.
CCCCCAAAAAAANNNNNN'TTTTTT WWWWWWAAAAAIIIIITTTTT FFFFFOOOOOOORRRR HALLLLOOOOOWWWWEEEEENNN.
I'm excited. I'm so excited.
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Painted it [the club] in the pub last week.
Been working on the hood for the goblin costume all week.
How do you use this [ ] to put pictures on as i can't get it working yet. Says you need to put http on it. Which as the pictures are not online and on my computer causes a headache. Would it be easier to share the pictures if i made a blog page somewhere and linked that to here?
Just put some pictures of the mask and club on my computer and wanted to show them to you.
Still need to touch the club up in places.... with paint of course...... lol.
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This is the picture that i have been using to make the goblin face mask. Also I am using it to make the hood as well. From the video footage I see the goblins have a dress like tunic and a.... green top? The dress i seen in the charity shop on saturday is a dark brownly green and would go well with a light green top and stone coloured trousers that i also seen in the same shop. The colours are faded on the top and trousers. Would that work for goblin clothes?
Keep looking at him. Keep looking. Imagine that he's standing right in front of you........ saying trick or treat..... Are you Scared yet?
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Keep looking at him. Keep looking. Imagine that he's standing right in front of you........
Or 'she'. Did you know that the goblins were played by women? Tim Child revealed it in an interview. One of them came to the Knightmare Convention.
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Or 'she'. Did you know that the goblins were played by women? Tim Child revealed it in an interview. One of them came to the Knightmare Convention.
WWWWWWOOOWW. Didn't know that. Thought it was young kid dancers that played them.
Can you tell male and female goblins apart by looking at them? If there is a difference i mean.
The goblins in the youtube special of Knightmare seem different to the original ones. Think they are either different species or one of the types of goblins is the baby/young version of the other fully grown adult version. Think original goblin is the young not quite full grown version as the youtube one looks more adult to me with what i think are red marks on its face near its eyes. Looks like an adult to me.
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I haven't seen enough of beyond Series 3 or 4 for a (very) long time so can't recall if the Goblins featured so regularly as they did in the formative years of the series. As for being played by us 'girls', who would have thought it ?
I think what we have here is a rare case of where the sounds of character are more intimidating than the appearance. Whenever I hear the goblin horn you get a sense of uneasiness and danger is never far away, but once they appear on screen they all look a bit silly and don't really present any real threat ?
From what I can recall they are (or were) invariably accompanied by some blundering incompetent character or adversary, which I think didn't present them as malicious as (which) was intended.
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...played by us 'girls'
OooooooOOOOOoooooh!!!
I didn't find the goblins much of a threat to be honest. Specially when you get warriors like McGrew who was afraid of them makes him look pathetic.
"Hey McGrew, they stand three foot four and their primary method of attack is to run at you with sticks. I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN TAKE THEM!!!"
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The goblins in the youtube special of Knightmare seem different to the original ones ... the youtube one looks more adult to me with what i think are red marks on its face near its eyes. Looks like an adult to me.
Judging by the conversation between Lord Fear and Lissard, just before the goblin appears, I assume that this is an appearance of Garstang, who's actually an orc. He appeared as the 'host' for KMVR, voiced by Tim Child, and then appeared in KMGW, played by Ben Child (I believe...) as a pursuing adversary á la the original goblins.
It's a different character of a different race played by a different actor, that's probably why he looked different!
I didn't find the goblins much of a threat to be honest. Specially when you get warriors like McGrew who was afraid of them makes him look pathetic.
Yes, I was confused as to why McGrew was so afraid of them, when he managed to battle a floating spectral sword in the minecart room without so much as batting an eyelid!
I wouldn't say they weren't really a threat, though - they did kill one dungeoneer; that's more than characters like Hordriss, Raptor, Snapper-Jack or McGrew himself managed to do! A genuine and credible threat in Series 3, at least!
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Post by Pooka » Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:51 pm Judging by the conversation between Lord Fear and Lissard, just before the goblin appears, I assume that this is an appearance of Garstang, who's actually an orc. He appeared as the 'host' for KMVR, voiced by Tim Child, and then appeared in KMGW, played by Ben Child (I believe...) as a pursuing adversary á la the original goblins.
It's a different character of a different race played by a different actor, that's probably why he looked different!
AAAAHHHHHHH!...... so that's an orc....... So not a goblin as i thought it was after all.
I think the creator of Knightmare needs to write a book [like a fact book] about all the different creatures in Knightmare ....e.g. behaviour, culture,what they eat, e.t.c. .
Then we can go creature spotting. lol.
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...played by us 'girls'
OooooooOOOOOoooooh!!!
I didn't find the goblins much of a threat to be honest. Specially when you get warriors like McGrew who was afraid of them makes him look pathetic.
"Hey McGrew, they stand three foot four and their primary method of attack is to run at you with sticks. I'M PRETTY SURE YOU CAN TAKE THEM!!!"
I thought they were about five foot. but most kids are taller then me. lol.
Better not show McGrew my halloween costume or this will happen. lol.
Hey McGrew do you like my halloween costume?
Dresses up as Goblin and shows McGrew.
McGrew screams like a small girl and runs away head first into a real Goblin. [not part of the plan]
McGrew screams again and runs the other way bumping into a sticky web.
McGrew cuts his way out of the web just as Skarkill turns up with his Goblins.
McGrew faints at the sight of the Goblins as i change back into my normal clothes. I plan to show Skarkill later.
Skarkill and the Goblins take McGrew prisoner. I facepalm my hand on my face as that was really not part of the plan and decide to get help to rescue McGrew.
I rescue McGrew in my Goblin costume as it was the best way to enter Lord Fear's lair without being caught.
McGrew freaks out at the sight of the Goblin and ends up running away and falls down an hole and has a chat with Simon.
Turns out McGrew has Goblin Phobia.
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As far as I’m concerned, the goblins will always remain one of the most iconic aspects of Knightmare. I know in practice they were largely a hurry-up mechanism but their scuttling little runs implied a real threat back when I was a child (and I think speak to our deep animalistic fears about being hunted; ever had a dream in which you’re being chased? That was the goblins a nutshell).
However, it’s the chilling blast of the goblin horn that’s the masterstroke. Sound design is so important and the producers just got this one spot on. It just says ‘Knightmare’ to me in the same way as the electronic pulse of the TARDIS says ‘Dr Who’ or the thrum of a lightsaber says ‘Star Wars’. I suppose this is the reason why people complained about the new horn sound in KMGW.
So many heart-stopping moments associated with something that at first appears to be only a minor detail…
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I agree. They should bring Knightmare back and put it back on tv right now. I get chills of joy when i hear the original horn. I never saw it first time round but i know that horn means goblins.
Itv have almost more repeats then the bbc at the moment, they might as well put old episodes of Knightmare on at the moment or a new series with adults, everything else is being repeated on itv. i have counted at least 18 repeats this week not counting plus an hour. Some of them are on at nine and are on again at eleven. Same channel as well.
Put something on worthwhile watching that isn't a repeat.
Knightmare has not been on itv for over twenty years. Its about time we bring it back. All we need is a tv studio, some cast, some advisers, some dungeoneers, some canvas, some paint, Treguard and Lord Fear.
Oh no wait i forget. Treguard needs a helper.
[Shouts to Pickle who is eating some tasty looking flowers.] HEY PICKLE COME OVER HERE A MINUTE TREGUARD NEEDS A FAVOUR FROM YOU.
As Pickle comes over to me wondering why a red haired dungeoneer with no helmet and no napsack is calling out for him in Treguard's name. I unlease my battle cry.
WHO'S WITH ME? LET'S DO THIS NOW!
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I have good news and great news for you.
Good news.... My uncle is getting there and he has one of his dogs back for the moment as he can cope with one of the dogs but not quite both of them yet.
Great news..... My Goblin costume is now done. I was thinking of trying it all on today but poor Missy the gentle one doesn't like the Goblin mask. She runs off when you put it on. I think its because its greenish. Dogs don't like high contrast and they see the colour yellow very well. This could be a problem if she's still here at Halloween. We'll have to keep her in the living room in case people come to the door.
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