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    GranitasIsCute
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    Jake, Rosey and I went to Helmsley Castle in Yorkshire today not expecting to find any Knightmare, but Jake spotted some anyway!

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/d5sm67gn3onibzl/knightmare1.jpg

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/iz327avjx749qj2/knightmare2.jpg?

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      Canadanne
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      Jake, Rosey and I went to Helmsley Castle in Yorkshire today not expecting to find any Knightmare, but Jake spotted some anyway!

      https://www.dropbox.com/s/d5sm67gn3onibzl/knightmare1.jpg

      https://www.dropbox.com/s/iz327avjx749qj2/knightmare2.jpg?

      Oh, nice! Are the photos by you or Jake? I can add these links to the Lexicon entry.

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        GranitasIsCute
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        I took the photos, but Jake spotted them.

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          Canadanne
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          News item about the 50th anniversary of the Weald & Downland Museum (Wolfenden), if anyone's interested:

          http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000mjkf/south-today-evening-news-07092020

          (Only available to watch until 7pm on Tuesday 8th September. The relevant bit starts at 21:10.)

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            AriadnesLayer
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            Absolutely You've done a great job keeping this thread updated.

            Did they ever use any Scottish locations?

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              Canadanne
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              Did they ever use any Scottish locations?

              Not in the show, as far as I'm aware. There are some promo photos using Eilean Donan Castle as a backdrop, though.

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                AriadnesLayer
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                I'm really impressed with your photos and how you have managed to capture the exact same filming angles and positions for different rooms/locations.

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                  Canadanne
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                  I'm really impressed with your photos and how you have managed to capture the exact same filming angles and positions for different rooms/locations.

                  Thanks. I took some photos at Framlingham Castle and Kentwell Hall last year:

                  http://www.canadanne.co.uk/kmlocations/framlingham.html

                  http://www.canadanne.co.uk/kmlocations/kentwell.html

                  Not an easy task when they turn the room into a gift shop!!

                  Was meant to be visiting a couple more locations earlier this year, but.... yeah.

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                    AriadnesLayer
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                    These are great. That gift shop must be the biggest change to a KM location out of them all.

                    The shot of those tall standing stones (where the dungeoneer first appears before entering the antechamber) was quite eye-opening. I had always thought they were gravestones and the shot was inside a graveyard (quite macabre even for this show). Seems I was wrong!

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                      Canadanne
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                      These are great. That gift shop must be the biggest change to a KM location out of them all.

                      Yeah, I think so. Unless you count the 'flower girl' building from Series 5 which has been moved to a different part of the museum!

                      The shot of those tall standing stones (where the dungeoneer first appears before entering the antechamber) was quite eye-opening. I had always thought they were gravestones and the shot was inside a graveyard (quite macabre even for this show). Seems I was wrong!

                      Haha, that never occurred to me! They're actually the remains of a bridge.

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                        Greystagg
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                        These are great photos! Very interesting to see the comparison, thanks for sharing them.

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                          Canadanne
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                          Was meant to be visiting a couple more locations earlier this year, but.... yeah.

                          Well, I finally made it to Castle Rising (the Castle of Doom) and Castle Acre Priory (Dungarth). My attempts to recreate scenes from Knightmare, with varying degrees of success:

                          http://www.canadanne.co.uk/kmlocations/rising.html

                          http://www.canadanne.co.uk/kmlocations/acre.html

                          Some scenes I couldn't fit into a single shot, so there are multiple angles. (I had particular difficulty with the prior's study, where even putting my camera on the windowsill would only capture part of the room.) One Eyeshield sequence at the priory is currently inaccessible due to maintenance work so I couldn't quite replicate it, though I did my best to take some zoomed photos through the fence. Anyway, it was fun to explore these locations at long last, seeing what's changed and what still looks exactly the same all these decades later!

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                            Drassil
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                            Thank you for posting these, Annie. It's very enjoyable to see how much care you put into matching up Knightmare's shots with yours.

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                              pjmlfc05
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                              Awesome photos and loved the comparison with the real life and Knightmare shots. Thank you for sharing.

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                                AriadnesLayer
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                                Thank you once again for those amazing photos and comparisons

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                                  Canadanne
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                                  Thank you for the comments!

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                                    Canadanne
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                                    South Today featured an item about Christmas in Tudor times this evening, pleasingly filmed in one of the clue rooms from Series 6! It starts at 21:03, with a familiar angle in the final shot at 24:05.

                                    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00264nt/south-today-evening-news-20122024

                                    (Available until 6:58pm on Saturday 21st December.)

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                                      Canadanne
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                                      South Today featured an item about Christmas in Tudor times this evening, pleasingly filmed in one of the clue rooms from Series 6! It starts at 21:03, with a familiar angle in the final shot at 24:05.

                                      https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00264nt/south-today-evening-news-20122024

                                      (Available until 6:58pm on Saturday 21st December.)

                                      For anyone who missed it:
                                      TudorKitchen.jpg

                                      TudorKitchen.jpg

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                                        Canadanne
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                                        That is one of the last great mysteries solved. Now if only we could identify Captain Nemanor's ship...

                                        I think I have FINALLY cracked this!

                                        With the ship appearing in the 1992 series, I've long thought there was a high probability that it was related to the 500th anniversary of Columbus' voyage, when there were replica ships touring and various films on the subject being released. Several years ago I saw some old photos of the Phoenix which starred as the Santa Maria in Ridley Scott's film '1492: Conquest of Paradise' and thought there was a resemblance to the Cloudwalker, but I wasn't sure, and never got round to emailing Square Sail about it. The whole film is now available on a popular video-sharing website and after skimming through it, I'm pretty convinced it's the same ship that appeared in Knightmare that year - there are many scenes both above and below deck that look a perfect match!

                                        The Phoenix has a Wikipedia entry here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_(1929_ship)

                                        It was originally a Danish ship built in 1929, bought by Square Sail in 1988, and was converted into a 15th century caravel in 1991 for the Columbus film. It was then converted into an 18th century brig in 1996 and is completely unrecognisable now, which explains why it's been so hard to identify! (More info here: https://woodenships.co.uk/sailing-yacht/tall-ship-phoenix/)

                                        It's had many other filming credits over the years, including the 1989 BBC series Voyage Of The Dawn Treader (pre-dating its caravel transformation), Moll Flanders, Hornblower, the 2011 Doctor Who episode 'The Curse of the Black Spot', Poldark, and the most recent BBC adaptation of Great Expectations.

                                        The ship was based in Charlestown Harbour near St Austell in Cornwall for a long time, but Square Sail didn't move there until 1994 - they were previously based in Bristol, and credited as 'Square Sail of Bristol' in the 1992 film. It could have been anywhere when they used it for Knightmare, as an archived version of Square Sail's website reveals this information: "From 1992, when not involved in film work, she opened to the general public and schools as an Educational Museum showing 'life at sea during the 15th Century'. She toured the UK ports over the next 4 years and attracted tourism to her home port of Charlestown, Cornwall." (I would hazard a guess that the Knightmare filming was done at the shipyard in Bristol as they obviously used a greenscreen for the background, like the one shown on this page about filming in Charlestown: https://charlestownharbour.com/historic-harbour-filming-location/)

                                        The Phoenix seems to be based in Belfast now, and is apparently a favourite at the Foyle Maritime Festival in Derry. Shame it would be impossible to recreate the Knightmare scenes on it!

                                        You may wish to update this page: https://www.knightmare.com/dungeon/locations/cloudwalker.html

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                                          Canadanne
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                                          The Phoenix seems to be based in Belfast now, and is apparently a favourite at the Foyle Maritime Festival in Derry.

                                          Update: as of last year the ship is owned by a French company and based in Port Haliguen, Quiberon in Brittany!

                                          https://www.aha56.com/le-phoenix

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