Series 4 Episode 10
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im sorry but she was well on her way to stepping when it cut away...my verdict, sorta let off, coz of unobservant advisors...bleh
opposite room...tell me, did that ever feature again? if not, we know why dont we. i seriously think i'd need a transcript if i wanted to fully unclog it. even as i was listening i heard merlin make mistakes or say some things the right way round which just confused things more....sigh. they should have just cast sprint and saw what would happen? i mean, even if they didn't have it it couldnt have hurt
erm...GO DICKON...and prav
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That was the most confusing thing ever. The first one about Uther Pendragon's daughter was Arthur. But the other two are really tough. Anyone know the answers?
Merlin gave them a SPRINT spell or did he?
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hiya,
The man said that he would give them a spell called "Sprint" but since everything was the opposite that means they didnt get it...
But then when they were answering the questions the man said "Falsehood" 3 times, now since this is a room of opposites shouldnt that mean they got them right?
Confusing ???
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Don't worry i'll explain. It took me a while to get. When that Team first entered the room, Merlin was saying everything opposite. For example "Don't sit down" meaning do sit down. When he was asking the questions, the team had to reverse the idea of the question. So when Merlin asked "Who was the daughter of Uther Pendragon?" he was really asking for the 'son' which was Arther. The team said "God". Now this is where this got confusing but i'll try my best to explain. The team had to answer the questions correctly to get their magic but they answered all their questions incorrectly. Merlin did not confirm the wrong answer with an opposite. The second question was "What happened to Cinderella's coach at mid-day?". The answer is disappeared as he meant mid-night. The Team got confused and said it appeared. The last question was "Who didn't have to worry about the Ides of March?" The answer is Julius Caesar as Merlin meant who did have to worry about the Ides of March. Sneaky huh! Anyway, hope you get it now. If you still don't get it just ask me and i'll do my best to explain. (again!)
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well i taped it so ill be able to watch it again and try and get it ;D
Thanks for the explanation Knightshadow
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Thanks! ;D Anything for the Knightmare fans!
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Thats alright. Any time. Thanks for the welcome. I'm starting to blush now! ;D
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Well and there u go.
Great stuff. But kinda silly because the question should have been opposite all the way not just part of the question. Thank god they never did that again.. guess it was just a way to kill off the team.. as they where getting further then should had.
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I don't know what the fuss is over the team anyway. They managed to get the answers completely messed up anyway.
"Who is the daughter of Uther Pendragon?"
opposite
"Who is the son of Uther Pendragon?"
(it could have been who is the mother of Uther Pendragon but no-one would have been able to answer that, and Pickle confirmed it)
Answer: King Arthur
Teams answer: God
Where did that come from? Sorry, barring religious practise God is not the son of anyone, and while he may be the holy Father he was not the holy Mother. So where did God from!?
"What happened to Cinderellas coach at mid-day?"
opposite
"What happened to Cinderellas coach at mid-night?"
Team say "it appeared".
The dungeoneer was right! It did turn back into a pumpkin, but the team were so dumb they never gave it a thought!
"Who should not have been worried about the Ides of March?"
opposite
"Who should have been worried about the Ides of March?"
Answer: Julius Caesar.
Team answer: The March of Ides(???)
There was no reasoning here....the team just didn't know the answer and failed pathetically.
An interesting note is that Merlin described the area as the Chamber of Opposite Extractions. Extraction = Question (i.e. to question somebody is to extract information from them by means of a query). Therefore all the questions were reversed, but the answers were not. The team were meant to give the correct answer (giving a wrong answer would have been far too easy) and the "Falsehood" was the answer to THEIR answer, so therefore was normal and not opposite.
"I'll give you a spell called Sprint"
He didn't. This was the opposite again. As proof the team did not have the spell, the spell book on the status bar opened to reveal...nothing.
Hope that's a bit helpful to anyone who was still puzzled.
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The whole affair goes quite a bit deeper than you realise. A very subtle bit of trickery was employed in this room. It lies not in the riddles themselves, though...
"...if you get the answers wrong then I will be able to reward you with magic!"
If the above sentence spoken by Merlin is reversed then he implies that if they get the answers right they WON'T get magic.
My theory is that not EVERYTHING in the room was reversed - the latter part of the above line, for example. The same applies to when he kept saying "falsehood". They were not reversed, either. Everything else was.
If the team had spotted that small semantic subtlety before the riddles began, I think they would have cottoned on to what was going on. I think they were supposed to answer properly, not reversed. The correct answers can't really be reversed, anyway!
So, a very sneaky bit of trickery. And it worked.
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I wonder what the sprint spell was actually for? I personally had a hunch it was for Ariadne but Treguard said after they died in the block and tackle magic could have saved them. But I think they just took too long there and died but If they had got past the block and tackle then Ariadne would have had them for lunch which would have been lovely .
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No the spell was for the block and takle thing.
After they died they where told magic would have got them past BUT they didn't win any.
Not that they needed magic for that room many people did with out but thats what they where told.
Anway Pikie gave them a big enough clue about the riddle anway.
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Yes, he would give them magic. Everything was opposite. When the girls answered the questions wrong, he said " I give you the magic 'SPRINT'" meaning he won't give them the magic 'SPRINT' get it?
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i still think those questions were pretty hard for kids, (well apart from the Cinderella one) i must admit i didnt have a problem but then, I'm 18 and did Classics at school, I'd have never have got them at 12/13.
The difficulty of the questions seemed to flucctuate quite a lot actually...
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No the spell was for the block and takle thing.
After they died they where told magic would have got them past BUT they didn't win any.
If you forget about what Treguard actually said and think about the rest of the series, it was very linear in nature. The quests themselves didn't have much difference in structure. Merlin appeared at about the same point in each quest in order to provide the teams with an opporunity to earn magic, which in at least two other cases was to escape from Ariadne (the shoe with the RUN spell, and the Hibernate spell that team 3 failed to get which led to their being eaten).
Sprint doesn't make much sense for getting through the block and tackle; it's just as likely to kill you as going too slowly.
So I have two thoughts; either sprint was for Ariadne and the team either needed something else for the B&T or else Treguard was just bluffing (he only said "magic may help you get through it", and "magic could have saved you but I'm afraid you didn't earn it"). If they'd guided Vicky properly they would've been fine, given the B&T was no quicker than for anyone else, and they spent ages just going back and forwards in the middle, shouting conflicting instructions over each other. We're not told which magic might've helped, if any.
The other thought is that Merlin said "I'm going to give you the spell called sprint" (which was, of course, opposite as he did no such thing). Maybe if they'd got it right he'd have said "I'm not going to give you the spell called slow"? Something that brought the b&t to a halt, perhaps.
We'll never know - but quite why this team should've required magical help to get through a standard obstacle I don't know. I still think there was something else. Merlin's opposites was a nice idea for a challenge, but it's just open to far too much interpretation and was wildly out of line with the difficulty of some other quests (Simon was hand-held all the way up to his own stupid death, for example).
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