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Knightmare VR?  I don't like the concept!

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    Malefact
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    Just a snippet for the impatient ones.

    We've applied for a Film council/lottery funded grant to help us build the new KM demonstrator. That's why we stopped work on the current development images for a month or so to await the result of that application.

    I'm not currently allowed to say what that result is - but I think you can expect things to start happening again.  :-X

    Impatient? Us? The very idea!  😉

    Well, it's great that things are still rolling. Thanks very much, bva!  ;D

    I also noticed the Lottery shakeup news. If the public is going to be allowed to have a greater say in how the money is to be distributed, perhaps we should send Camelot the BBK petition.

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      I also have slight doubts on this new version - reality is so much better.  I think they should do a similar thing to that A1 video - 'take on me' - using virtual reality to create grpahically adavcned dungeon rooms and obstacles whilst keeping the characters and dungeoneers as they used to be.  couple all that with the imcredible originality of KNightmare and you have a hit.

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        I don't think a mixed reality show is feasible. They are very expensive due to all the equipment required. A full VR format is MUCH cheaper which makes it much more likely to find a commission.

        I can understand how some of the realism might be eroded by having everything VR but, on the other hand, it would vastly increase the amount of interaction possible between the dungeoneer and their environment. The deaths, for example, would become a lot better (the way the dungeoneers fell to their doom, for example, was always too mechanical to appear real). A huge variety of new things could be done that wouldn't have been possible before. It will take Km into unexplored territory - which will ensure that the show remains fresh (a plain remake of earlier glories will undoubtably leave a bad taste in the mouths of reviewers and probably us too).

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          Well said Maly  😉

          Although i am prone to using the phrase 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' very regularly and my first impressions were that Knightmare VR would be a little, well pants I am now getting rather excited about the idea......

          If it aint broke, don't fix it, but then just make it better anyway......

          Hear that BVA, You have a convert!

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            WhiteFloatingSkull
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            I don't think I like the sound of such a grand show as Knightmare being reduced to nothing more than a 5-10 side-show in some bad saturday morning TV show...

            But still, as much as I hated those old phone-in's, Knightmare will be enough to test even the bravest caller, and should even present us older viewers with a chance to call in, and show these young dungeoneers how the Pro's would do it.  ;D

            Give it a chance, and all may be well.  😉

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              I really don't think that "left left left, right, right, UPPP!" was what is meant by "phone in"

              i'd imagine it'd be a "phone in to determine what challenge they face after the break" or "the more people who phone in with the correct answer, the more help the dungeoneer gets"...etc

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                Malefact
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                Let's just hope the BBC gets Km - otherwise Treguard would have to deliver a decidedly un-Medieval "we'll be back after the break!"  ::)

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                  WhiteFloatingSkull
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                  If 'Temporal distortion' was used to explain the end of show, then I'm SURE they can come up with some catchy 'break-related' phrase...

                  Maybe something about new magical energies interfering with our 'existance' in the KM realm, or some other spiel like that would do.  ;D

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                    or maybe they could make it one half hour uninterupted show

                    isnt that what they did on CITV? or did it just fade out and fade back? i cant remember.

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                      No, it was always continuous on CITV. Those were the days before they sold out and got logos, extra breaks and crass sponsorship.

                      I therefore hope the BBC get Km because they're the only channel(s) that would be able to retain that quality.

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                        Pickle123
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                        cool

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                          Not sure of the having KM played via phone...Reminds me of 'Hugo' which they used to have on Going Live.

                          CITV these days would be a bad choice, an advert break is a cert, as they seem to have those in all shows over 20 minutes these days, and having that silly CITV logo....WHy do they need it now, they didn't use it 10 years ago.

                          Meh, the ways the new age has affected things.....

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                            Pickle123
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                            i think the idea is having a phone vote or somthing during the break (hence my dismissing the left left left UP NOOOO DOWN!) theory. If it can be done well then i won't overly mind.

                            anyway, when the new series gets a dvd release it'll be continuous

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                              Malefact
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                              Or indeed voting by internet or texting.

                              I'm pretty certain that if the new series is successful then a DVD release would be guaranteed. I can hear the voiceover at the end of the last episode now: "...and you can now get Km on DVD..."

                              They'd be able to strike while the iron was hot. It would also bolster interest in the older series.

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                                Pickle123
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                                points to body of petition while grinning

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                                  Malefact
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                                  I get the distinct impression that things are starting to slot very neatly into place.

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                                    GrimaldineGrimwold
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                                    I'm not quite sure where the idea that the new KM would be one of those awful phone game type things a la Saturday mornings came from, and I'd hope that Tim Child thinks enough of his old project that he would never demean its memory by reducing it to that! Unless I've misunderstood completely, the intention is to have the kidsie(s) in a studio (VR studio, whatever) recording it live. The interactive element most likely comes in during a break, whether it be a natural advertising break or a break between two KM segments with another show or shows in between. I suppose that has the possibility of involving phone votes, mobile texting, digital television interactive voting etc. etc. etc. I seem to remember Tim Child also mentioning the use of various viewpoints, which would also presumably be possible via digital television.

                                    I personally think the interactive element is rather exciting, and there are lots more possibilities than those I've mentioned here or that have been mentioned elsewhere on this forum. While some people might like the BBC to get any new KM so there could be no breaks in each transmission, a break of whatever nature would enhance the interactive possibilities. Yes, it would be different, but the viewer interactivity might just be the thing that could get it shown somewhere, so I'd advise people not to get too conservative about it too quickly. If you can only find it in yourself to like the old KM without any changes whatsoever, then watch your videos. The rest of us will wait and see what changes- and hopefully in many cases improvements- will be made on the original format.

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                                      smirkenorff
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                                      I guess KM was always at the cutting edge of technology.. Now that technology has moved on, KM is moving with it, possibly bringing in the concept of phone / mobile / inernet voting or interactive KM...

                                      Sounds good to me

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                                        Fidjit
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                                        How would you mean?

                                        Competition phone/text/e-mail line?

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                                          Perhaps "Will the current team win? Text your vote to..."

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