Hope for Knightmare on Challenge? TV?
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I heard it! And I'm glad someone else did too.
I hope it's something good. But perhaps the GJ just doesn't know it's not being continued, or something. It might be worth mentioning on Challenge?'s own forum.
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Yippee! It wasn't my hopeful imagination, then.
It would be just stupid for them to cut off Knightmare when it's their SECOND MOST POPULAR PROGRAM or whatever they're defining it as. I want to see some series 4, but I never get tired of seeing those poor dungeoneers fall off cliffs. I saw that episode with Leo twice today. Good stuff.
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Yep, that's what we've been trying to tell them for a while now. Logic, however, is not always Challenge?'s strong point.
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The ultimate challenge for Challenge? TV - getting a grip on common sense.
That sounds good to me. Dear Lord, that logic is just twisted...
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Heh, anyway- welcome to the forum.
realises he should have said that a few posts ago
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Thanks.
God, I'm so mad at that stupid Challenge? network. I waited eagerly for some more encouraging words after yesterday's episode, but there weren't any. Maybe it was just a case of a misinformed Games Jockey person. I was really excited for a while, too. -
Thanks.
God, I'm so mad at that stupid Challenge? network. I waited eagerly for some more encouraging words after yesterday's episode, but there weren't any. Maybe it was just a case of a misinformed Games Jockey person. I was really excited for a while, too.Yes, I'm afraid I think it might have been a case of misinformation. I asked about it on *Challenge?'*s forum, but (of course!) haven't had a reply yet. switch off flippant mode
engage optimistic mode A lot of viewers have stated their opinions on Challenge?'s forums, and I still urge people to go and say their piece to try to convince them to continue showing this programme. I've been really heartened to see so many people state their opinions, and it'd be great to get the thread up above 100 replies. There's always a chance they will listen, and we can hope (even if we don't believe) that the GJ on Saturday knows something good that we don't.
Here's the thread's 3rd page: http://www.challengetv.co.uk/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000144-3.html
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I'm afraid I don't remember. The email definitely asked them not to take KM off the air. The part that was read out didn't mention Takeshi's Castle, although that doesn't mean it wasn't mentioned in the email itself.
The KM thread on *Challenge?'*s forum has now hit 100 replies.
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How about we ambush the other threads too? Go on Takeshi's Castle threads and ask if they think that Takeshi's Castle is like a foreign version of Knightmare or how it compares to Knightmare, and see if we can change all the threads into KM based discussions! If it's mentioned everywhere, they can't avoid it!!!
Right?
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Some threads just get hijacked naturally, like when someone posts saying "Beadle's About is the best show in the world", people might well fairly reply "No, sorry Mrs. Beadle. Knightmare is". But I don't think deliberately hijacking all the other threads would be particularly beneficial. One really good thing has been that the regulars on the Challenge? forum have been as enthusiastic about KM as the KM fans who've gone there. And now many of their new regulars are KM fans, pure and simple. I wouldn't want to risk that useful relationship.
However, I still think it stinks that Challenge? see fit just to ignore our messages. I think we've been fair, and that our criticism has been constructive. If they listened they might learn a bit. On certain other threads they have been replying, so it really is a case of ignoring the KM issue. I think we have valid points and a lot of valid questions which they haven't even tried to answer. I wouldn't mind at all if they gave us fair and frank reasons to justify their decision- but they haven't. And if ratings are the issue, then, as we've all pointed out, it's their own fault for making such a mess of marketing the programme. I think we deserve a response to that point too.
Being militant and upsetting Challenge? clearly isn't the answer. However, when people have tried to help and asked questions, I think they deserve an answer. I'm going to keep posting. I might post my points and questions in new threads, since they've ignored all our posts when we've kept our comments to one major thread. I don't think that's pushing them too far- those of us who've worked hard on everyone's behalf deserve a few answers.
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Some very good points there, GG. I agree that it would be nice to get some kind of feedback - the only way to get it is post on the forum asking the mods outright to comment. That was the only way of getting FTN to give some kind of response (courtesy of Abaddon).
Still, as beveryafraid said, getting Challenge to get even one series is an achievement seeing as they are more expensive than other programmes. They paid attention back then, didn't they?
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One of Challenge?'s official team has responded again on the main KM thread. I won't quote it all here, because I think doing so sometimes stops people going to Challenge?'s own forum and contributing.
The general message, however:
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We can't advertise every programme
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We do take into account a lot of factors when considering whether to buy (further) series of programmes.
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We are currently monitoring KM's ratings.
So, at least those of us who posted got an answer of sorts. I still don't think some of the logic is completely sound, but I for one think we've now made the point on the advertising and such. Even if they won't admit it directly, I think they realise they approached the marketing of this programme with an inappropriate attitude.
The last line of the post was, however, interesting:
"Just purely out of interest, if we were to buy another series, which one would you suggest?"
I would quickly add that they have NOT committed themselves to buying another series. This may be "purely out of interest". It may be that they are seriously considering the possibility. For those of a cynical mindset, it may be an elaborate ploy to focus us on something other than pointing out their folly.
Anyway, the full text is on their forum, via the link I've posted far too many times already. Posts there are always welcome.
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I'm going to say 4 too.
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