have you seen the Challenge adverts?
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What on earth are Challenge thinking of showing Knightmare at 10AM and 5AM ?? This looks like bad news for Series 5... I hope they see sense and give Knightmare its 6PM slot, or one that better suits it such as 7PM or 7:30...
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Nods. I understand totally about the want for more viewers, and adjusting accordingly. Yet, and I'm sure the argument must have been put forward before, I wonder why Challenge are never wooried about future preservation for this type of show. They don't seem to be worried that in a month's time people could be pig-sick of T.C and not turn to watching it for a good few months afterwards. They seem strangely occupied about the present ~ we want lots of watchers TODAY, this week ~ worry about the future then. Given this, I hope T.C. does slump, because I think it would be justice done for a show of that quality that gussumps KM in terms of viewers to start showing a better representation of things!
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I can't see why Challenge can't keep the 11.30pm slot for us 'laties'. Also I think Knightmare's chances up high in the ratings are getting slimmer and slimmer, as Challenge? keep getting other shows like the mole! It wouldn't surprise me if they get Big Brother and I'm a celebrity, etc. etc. (more of those sort of shows) in the near distant future. I see it as Challenge? believing that todays viewers do not go for shows like Knightmare (they do not believe it will get the ratings that they want).
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I like the idea.. remember there will be different people about during them times.. challenge have already won over the prime slots for knightmare and moveing it around will allow other wathers to view the program maybe pushing them to takeing more notice for a new season or the other episodes.
have to rememver a views are 5am isn't likley to see kmare at 6pm.
and i think challenge would have already decided if they want anymore.
but the 5am slot is alittle silly but 10am is okay
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After todays episode (the last ep of S3), the continuity announcer said they'll be showing a Knightmare double-bill at some point, so I don't know how they'll fit that in the schedules. Or if the episodes they show'll follow on from the episodes in the regular slot.
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Incidentally, I can just about manage the 5am slot, but the 10am slot's terrible. Who's awake at that time?! Either way, I suppose a lot of people with 'jobs' missed the 6pm showing. Get your priorities straight people! Providing you move back in with your parents (if possible), they've got SKY and you can live off Tesco value baked beans, you should be able to live on your dole money AND have a just enough to buy a couple of blank tapes to record Knightmare on.
Also, my new self-help book "How to Watch Knightmare on £42 a Week" is available from all good bookshops now, priced £41.99.
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how many of us emailed the GJ to say we would love to see a double bill of knightmare as he asked, me for sure ;D
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Nods. I understand totally about the want for more viewers, and adjusting accordingly. Yet, and I'm sure the argument must have been put forward before, I wonder why Challenge are never wooried about future preservation for this type of show. They don't seem to be worried that in a month's time people could be pig-sick of T.C and not turn to watching it for a good few months afterwards. They seem strangely occupied about the present ~ we want lots of watchers TODAY, this week ~ worry about the future then. Given this, I hope T.C. does slump, because I think it would be justice done for a show of that quality that gussumps KM in terms of viewers to start showing a better representation of things!
Challenge do seem to have a remarkably present-tense outlook as regards scheduling. It has indeed been pointed out to them that TC will suffer in the long-term if it's overexposed now, but since Challenge can't take intelligent criticism without either a) going deaf, or b) throwing tantrums, I imagine they're still running around their office with their fingers in their ears shouting "We can't hear you" over and over again like 8 year olds.
In my view, they also fail to prioritise effectively. Knightmare may not be pulling in the ratings that TC is, but there are many other shows in the prime-time schedule that are doing a great deal worse. Now they only have TC and Fort Boyard among the prime-time schedules that rate well. I can understand the idea of moving it to the morning slot to attract children on holiday, but the adverts I've seen have all been put on in the peak-slot it's just moved from! How is that going to attract people who weren't watching it before? I'd hope they might have thought of advertising on children's channels, but I doubt they have.
I think they're likely to remain shortsighted. From what's been said on their forum, it looks like at the moment they intend to move it back to a prime-time slot in due course. However, although they may add Series 5, it'll be very much the same limited episodes. The comment made by one of their GJs that they were looking at acquiring Series 5-8 is either out-of-date, or was an outright lie or misrepresentation of their strategy. They're only looking at the possibility of acquiring Series 5, according to one of their staff. They'll show these over and over again until they have the same problem, and they'll probably blame it on the programme rather than their bizarre strategy of getting a few episodes at a time when some of them have now been shown lots of times already.
This is the channel that were bemused that the viewing figures for The Crystal Maze had decreased after they'd shown it on constant repeat for years, and the same channel that thought a few months later they could bring it back into the prime-time schedules with reinvigorated ratings. This is the channel who think that Celebrity TV Bloopers will fit their programme portfolio, and- worse- think it will be a ratings winner. This is the channel whose GJs have been announcing for the last week a future programme but giving the incorrect time it's on. This is the channel who begin their description of a future programme they wish to promote with "I know it doesn't sound very exciting, but...". Thankfully, it's also the channel that were convinced to show Knightmare. However, based on past performance, don't ever expect them to treat it properly or even logically.
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Makes perfect sence. i forgot the kids where off.
And since they have been off for a week or 2 they might have cought the last couple of Knightmare eps...
Most people tend to be up during school holidays 9/10am so haveing Kmare at 10 makes perfect sence.
And i'm sure there are many out there who get up about 5am.. i used to. but they should have kept the late eveing slot instead.
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Anyone else seen the one advertising KM and Gamesmaster jointly? I saw it for the first time tonight. The Patrick Moore impression wasn't too bad, but I hope whoever was voicing Treguard wasn't genuinely trying to impersonate Hugo. If so, they should really stick to the day job! Has anyone seen any other adverts for KM?
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Ive seen it, thought it was very funny ;D
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I've seen it about three or four times now. I didn't really like it at first but it has grown gradually on me and has started to seem quite funny. I thought similar to GG about the Treguard impressionist. I preferred the ads that Challenge had for s4 and I think that s5 should be advertised in the same way. Maybe the same way as other programmes are advertised, where they take clips of characters/people in those shows and it sounds as if they are talking about (if anyone knows what I mean).
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Don't worry Marge, I know what you mean!
It does grow on you, although I agree it'd be nice to see some actual footage from the show. Still quite funny.
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What's your order of preference for the Challenge ads.
Mine is:
3rd - the one for s5
2nd - the ones over the Summer with the s4 clips
1st - the documentry for s3 (my favourite)
Oh I forgot the one with the office blokes - one with a bin on his head crashing into the wall and being laughed at by colleagues. I can't decide which one for third now out of that and the one for s5.
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I've included a few other means of advertising they've also used. Hope you don't mind.
1st Mentioning Knightmare and the time it's on after other programmes. They seem to do this a lot with other shows. It's cheap, and I'd guess fairly effective. I don't hear them do it with Knightmare, really.
2nd The Documentary. Yep, nice for the fans, thought I'd guess it wasn't really an advertising tool as such.
3rd The S4 Advert. over the Summer for KM and TCM jointly. Got the point across, and showed clips, so people browsing who'd remember the show by sight if not by name would understand.
4th S5 Advert. for KM and Gamesmaster jointly. Quite funny- pity there's no clips.
5th "The guy with the bin on his head." Nice idea in theory, to fit with the way they advertised other shows in the same 20 seconds or so. At least it mentioned the show's name, I guess!
6th No Advert. That was how it was for a fair while when it was a new regular show on Challenge.
7th Giving the wrong date of the next episode after several KM installments. Yep, they did that for a while too.
So, yes, I guess the current ad. could be better, but it's an improvement on some ways they seemingly sought to promote the show in the past!
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