TAPE PIRACY
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Its money made easy, I couldn't buy anything with channel logos in the corners...
I'm wondering why people don't realise that.
Then again I'm thinking about the episodes upon YouTube. Doesn't that contraveine the rules a bit too?
(I'm trying not to ruin the fun BTW )
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I can't believe the members of this forum who have nothing better to do than report eBayer sellers. What losers. Now I'm looking for Knightmare on DVD and can't find any items on eBay. If there was an official release I'd buy that but since there isn't I'm left with scouring the internet for copies with no luck on eBay.
Please find something to do with your lives rather than spoiling things for hard core fans who now have to go without. I'm very angry about this.
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Sorry, VanZan, but I'm afraid that there were serious problems with the law over this matter around six or seven years ago, and since then it's become a no-go area. People nearly got into very serious trouble about profiteering from piracy, and those running websites about the series, many of whom had nothing to do with tape-trading, were among them. This is why we all tend to avoid the issue.
You mention an official release, but that's precisely what won't happen if pirate copies become abundant. This is why we tend to report the profiteers.
Sorry if this 'angers' you (whoever you are), but I suggest you take it up with Granada Media. If they say that they don't mind it, please let us know. If they don't say so, I for one will carry on reporting the eBay pirates.
Can I recommend you please read this...
... and also read the rest of this thread, as you aren't saying anything that hasn't been gone over many times before.
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Well, it's really the pirates who were charging a lot for copies of the tapes who are to blame. Like I say, we'll always report them, as they're not only making cash they ill-deserve, but they're also reducing the chances of an official release; if the market is flooded with pirate copies of the series, GM will assume there's no point in going to the expense of putting it out on DVD.
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My dates might be a little rusty. But I believe the Granada petition/response occured before Challenge? started showing Knightmare on TV.
Since there has been quite a provable upsurge in the interest in Knightmare since that time, I wonder whether it might be worth sending them some more letters encouraging them to reconsider a Knightmare DVD release.
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Personally I think enforcing copyright when there is no commercial legal version been sold anymore is petty, people here argue piracy will only lower the chance of proper dvd's been released but its a catch 22. Piracy of knightmare is thriving on the lack of a legal version.
If I see someone selling it on ebay I will turn a blind eye its as simple as that reporting it is very petty. If people are willing to pay £50 for one season then its the copyright holders fault for not taking advantage of that.
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To be quite honest, the argument is long over.
The chances of a commercial release of KM DVDs are zero, it would have happened by now. A few people buying illegitimate copies has not caused this.
Whilst watching, recording and buying knock-off copies is illegal, so is recording songs from the radio, downloading ROMs of old video games and being drunk in a public house (Who can say they haven't?)
The demand for a proper release of KM DVDs would have been suficient to justify a release (Kids programes such as Rainbow and the Dreamstone were released on DVD after all!) but it never has and never will happen.
Unfortunately...
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To be quite honest, the argument is long over.
The chances of a commercial release of KM DVDs are zero, it would have happened by now. A few people buying illegitimate copies has not caused this.
Whilst watching, recording and buying knock-off copies is illegal, so is recording songs from the radio, downloading ROMs of old video games and being drunk in a public house (Who can say they haven't?)
The demand for a proper release of KM DVDs would have been suficient to justify a release (Kids programes such as Rainbow and the Dreamstone were released on DVD after all!) but it never has and never will happen.
Unfortunately...
And that, my unfriend, why Chrysalis's argument is valid!! "Piracy" is - first and foremost - the public's response to the inarguable fact that copyright holders the world over are providing an inadequate and/or overly-expensive service!
It may lead to some nasty bgrs latching onto the "over expensive" idea and demanding huge amounts of money for a DVDR (that's human nature!) - but who's to blame? The copyright holders who create the need for such a "service".
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None of which hasn't been said before. Nor is it going to change the fact that selling episodes is illegal, or that it violates the rules of Ebay. Nor is it going to change the fact that people got into trouble with the copyright-holders a few years ago, and it is quite possible that it will happen again if Granada Media find out.
I'm sorry to sound crotchety, Aldarion, truly I am, but this really is one of those arguments that should just be dropped, and I'm sure I'm not the only who's fed up of it. We've been over all this ground so many times before (not just on this thread), and it seems that every few months someone else always arrives and insists on digging the issue up again. And they never say anything new, and so we end up having to repeat the explanations we've already given many times before.
What's the point of prolonging the argument any further? It's not going to change anything until GM's stance changes, and there is no sign whatever that they are even prepared to discuss Knightmare with the fans, let alone change their policy.
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http://www.knightmare.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2019&start=90#p30967
An unrelated American comic.
Of all the forum members who could have said those words, it was a Englishman called Bill(y) Hicks. Just wonderful. I only wish I'd spotted it at the time, as it was the kind of light relief this topic needed!
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For god's sake people do this all the time.... i was almost fined £1000 for having an illegal copy of Scott Pilgrim VS The World.... Guys please be very careful what you buy and only buy from acredited sources.... you could lose a lot of money >:D
Listen to his words of wisdom. Trust me!
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