TAPE PIRACY
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have to agree. i too am against piracy when the media is already readily available, hense you are reducing the profits/revenue of the distributers/owners, but when something is clearly not going to be available - i dont see why not - its born out of fandom not malice.
i do however understand the mods, they have to keep the discussion legal, i bet they secretly have their own copies though!
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I got no doubt the mods and senior members will have their own copies but I can understand why they have to tread safely else this site itself could end up in legal trouble.
I just hope one day dvds become available until then I will have to make do with challenge.
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if you read my other topic you saw i was looking on ebay.co.uk for the knightmare board game and saw this one that is perfect : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=130165750157
i looked more on ebay.co.uk for other knightmare things and i saw someone selling knightmare on dvd. i know it was not release on dvd in any country and it is not legale to sell pirate dvd :X. i think seller must also know it is not legale because he hides the names of people bidding for the dvd: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150173404823
i like looking on ebay but you must beware unhonest sellers like for the dvd.
sorry for bad english!
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Its money made easy, I couldn't buy anything with channel logos in the corners...
I'm wondering why people don't realise that.
Then again I'm thinking about the episodes upon YouTube. Doesn't that contraveine the rules a bit too?
(I'm trying not to ruin the fun BTW )
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I can't believe the members of this forum who have nothing better to do than report eBayer sellers. What losers. Now I'm looking for Knightmare on DVD and can't find any items on eBay. If there was an official release I'd buy that but since there isn't I'm left with scouring the internet for copies with no luck on eBay.
Please find something to do with your lives rather than spoiling things for hard core fans who now have to go without. I'm very angry about this.
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Sorry, VanZan, but I'm afraid that there were serious problems with the law over this matter around six or seven years ago, and since then it's become a no-go area. People nearly got into very serious trouble about profiteering from piracy, and those running websites about the series, many of whom had nothing to do with tape-trading, were among them. This is why we all tend to avoid the issue.
You mention an official release, but that's precisely what won't happen if pirate copies become abundant. This is why we tend to report the profiteers.
Sorry if this 'angers' you (whoever you are), but I suggest you take it up with Granada Media. If they say that they don't mind it, please let us know. If they don't say so, I for one will carry on reporting the eBay pirates.
Can I recommend you please read this...
... and also read the rest of this thread, as you aren't saying anything that hasn't been gone over many times before.
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Well, it's really the pirates who were charging a lot for copies of the tapes who are to blame. Like I say, we'll always report them, as they're not only making cash they ill-deserve, but they're also reducing the chances of an official release; if the market is flooded with pirate copies of the series, GM will assume there's no point in going to the expense of putting it out on DVD.
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My dates might be a little rusty. But I believe the Granada petition/response occured before Challenge? started showing Knightmare on TV.
Since there has been quite a provable upsurge in the interest in Knightmare since that time, I wonder whether it might be worth sending them some more letters encouraging them to reconsider a Knightmare DVD release.
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Personally I think enforcing copyright when there is no commercial legal version been sold anymore is petty, people here argue piracy will only lower the chance of proper dvd's been released but its a catch 22. Piracy of knightmare is thriving on the lack of a legal version.
If I see someone selling it on ebay I will turn a blind eye its as simple as that reporting it is very petty. If people are willing to pay £50 for one season then its the copyright holders fault for not taking advantage of that.
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To be quite honest, the argument is long over.
The chances of a commercial release of KM DVDs are zero, it would have happened by now. A few people buying illegitimate copies has not caused this.
Whilst watching, recording and buying knock-off copies is illegal, so is recording songs from the radio, downloading ROMs of old video games and being drunk in a public house (Who can say they haven't?)
The demand for a proper release of KM DVDs would have been suficient to justify a release (Kids programes such as Rainbow and the Dreamstone were released on DVD after all!) but it never has and never will happen.
Unfortunately...
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