KM Universe - cartographers needed
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Knightmare's explicitly shifting geography makes it far from ideal for mapping. (Not just across series, but within
I do know what you're saying, and it was certainly true of the layout of the Dungeon in the first three seasons, as was explicitly stated both in the series and the novellas.
But overall I've come to view this as a question of interpretation, at least when it comes to the broader geography; the outdoor locations, I suspect, such as forests and villages, all stay where they are, and it's the paths that link them that move around.
(Admittedly, this doesn't account for places like the Crazed Heifer jumping from one forest to the next, but we can always rationalise that; maybe the inn from S4 burned to the ground, and the owner decided to re-found it in a new building somewhere else.)
EDIT: On second thoughts, Drassil, kindly mind your own business and keep your opinions to yourself. They are not wanted.
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The Rocks of Bruin don't seem to have a mention yet.
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Won't Dwarf Tunnels (Series Three Only) and the Corridor of Blades going to be a challenge. I must admit I did once try to create a map of the dungeon and I found it near impossible to do Series Three alone...
But then again it does help to put our heads together. Why don't we throw in our own designs? Compare them and plaster the best ideas together?
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Shouldn't you be keeping quiet about this topic, Glenn? I thought you were a Silent Cartographer.
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The Rocks of Bruin don't seem to have a mention yet.
Golden Galleon too-- a sort of successor to Cloudwalker if I recall?
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Obviously, Knightmare is not like fantasy worlds such as Middle Earth and Earthsea, which had fixed maps for all adventures. In fact, Knightmare's explicitly shifting geography makes it far from ideal for mapping.
So... Would you say the map should be four or five dimensional, then?
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I knocked this up based on a middlearth type of idea, combining elements from as much of the greater dungeon as possible.
I did have an idea to make a 3D version with the 3 levels moving down like a layered cliff face, with level one at the top and three at the bottom with Goth towering up the side of all three from the bottom. This will have to be a hand drawn piece I think. Having said that Treguard's blurb and the view from Smirkenorf's flights would seem to imply that the levels are not geographic.
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In fact, Knightmare's explicitly shifting geography makes it far from ideal for mapping. (Not just across series, but within: for example, I doubt that there was consistency in the areas Smirkenorff flew over to get from A to B in Series 5.)
...I must admit, when I first heard of this idea I thought it was insane on account of the Chaos Architecture involved in the dungeons and surrounding landscape... But there does seem to be something successfully charted.
Maybe a topographical map [think London Underground map] of dungeon interiors rather than a geographical map would make more sense for them?
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I always prefered to think that the places and characters were not destroyed and reformed but what changes between the seasons is the path, the quest itself, not the dungeon.
My take on it is that the dungeon 'surfaces' or becomes available to outsiders for a short time, hence the seasons in which dungeoneers head down there. Then it 'folds up' and becomes unavailable for a while. Because of its tendency to shift, sometimes old characters get caught outside of the available challenge area but are still safe, we just don't see them. And whtn new characters turn up they've just happened to have been released on that particular season.
Perhaps?
But I'm up for seeing a map!
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A map of the Greater Dungeon.
I always like to believe that the whole place exists and that the big shift at season's end was just the path through changing and various locations still appear or are mentioned one season to the next.
The map is not complete yet.
What do you think?
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