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    sozboz
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    Whenever a team got beat in series 3 and you see them walk away, there is another castle on the horizon, any theories as to what that castle might be?

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    • HStormH
      HStormH
      HStorm
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      I call it 'Fortress Continuity-Glitch'... or at a stretch perhaps the remains of one of the 'other' Dunshelm forts mentioned in the first novella.

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        Fidjit
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        Won't Dwarf Tunnels (Series Three Only) and the Corridor of Blades going to be a challenge. I must admit I did once try to create a map of the dungeon and I found it near impossible to do Series Three alone...

        But then again it does help to put our heads together. Why don't we throw in our own designs? Compare them and plaster the best ideas together?

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          Drassil
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          Shouldn't you be keeping quiet about this topic, Glenn? I thought you were a Silent Cartographer.

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            Fidjit
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            Watch it old son I didn't change it without a reason y'know

            Still, is it a plan?

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              Guest
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              I love maps of fantasy worlds - the ones in Fighting Fantasy books come to mind - so it'll be great seeing the finished result of the Knightmare one

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              • HStormH
                HStormH
                HStorm
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                The good news is that Modeski has said he'll have a crack at drawing it for the AP site, so expect to see it fairly soon.

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                  Fidjit
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                  Nice one! That'll be a challenge but I'll be glad to see it when it is completed

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                  • BrotherStrangeB
                    BrotherStrangeB
                    BrotherStrange
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                    The Rocks of Bruin don't seem to have a mention yet.

                    Golden Galleon too-- a sort of successor to Cloudwalker if I recall?

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                      Naitch
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                      This would be great to see!

                      How about maybe some other locations that may have appeared in the books as well?

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                        Gizensha
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                        Obviously, Knightmare is not like fantasy worlds such as Middle Earth and Earthsea, which had fixed maps for all adventures. In fact, Knightmare's explicitly shifting geography makes it far from ideal for mapping.

                        So... Would you say the map should be four or five dimensional, then?

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                        • HordrissH
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                          Hordriss
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                          I knocked this up based on a middlearth type of idea, combining elements from as much of the greater dungeon as possible.

                          I did have an idea to make a 3D version with the 3 levels moving down like a layered cliff face, with level one at the top and three at the bottom with Goth towering up the side of all three from the bottom. This will have to be a hand drawn piece I think. Having said that Treguard's blurb and the view from Smirkenorf's flights would seem to imply that the levels are not geographic.

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                            Fidjit
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                            Very fancy indeed my grace... Thats a start and very accurate it is indeed.

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                              Gizensha
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                              In fact, Knightmare's explicitly shifting geography makes it far from ideal for mapping. (Not just across series, but within: for example, I doubt that there was consistency in the areas Smirkenorff flew over to get from A to B in Series 5.)

                              ...I must admit, when I first heard of this idea I thought it was insane on account of the Chaos Architecture involved in the dungeons and surrounding landscape... But there does seem to be something successfully charted.

                              Maybe a topographical map [think London Underground map] of dungeon interiors rather than a geographical map would make more sense for them?

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                                HordrissH
                                Hordriss
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                                I always prefered to think that the places and characters were not destroyed and reformed but what changes between the seasons is the path, the quest itself, not the dungeon.

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                                  Velvet
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                                  I always prefered to think that the places and characters were not destroyed and reformed but what changes between the seasons is the path, the quest itself, not the dungeon.

                                  My take on it is that the dungeon 'surfaces' or becomes available to outsiders for a short time, hence the seasons in which dungeoneers head down there. Then it 'folds up' and becomes unavailable for a while. Because of its tendency to shift, sometimes old characters get caught outside of the available challenge area but are still safe, we just don't see them. And whtn new characters turn up they've just happened to have been released on that particular season.

                                  Perhaps?

                                  But I'm up for seeing a map!

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                                  • HordrissH
                                    HordrissH
                                    Hordriss
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                                    #24

                                    A map of the Greater Dungeon.

                                    I always like to believe that the whole place exists and that the big shift at season's end was just the path through changing and various locations still appear or are mentioned one season to the next.

                                    The map is not complete yet.

                                    What do you think?

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                                      Hordriss
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                                      #25

                                      Unfortunately a large part of the map appears to have been cropped off... :s

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                                      • shadow6162S
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                                        shadow6162
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                                        I like it!

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                                        • HordrissH
                                          HordrissH
                                          Hordriss
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                                          #27

                                          Thanks, you can see the full one on my DA page, user name Hordriss.

                                          The writing is a bit small in places, the Cloudwalker galleon, Wolfenden, Dungarth etc.

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